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     Apr 2, 2011


Interview with Joseph Baladi

Benjamin A Shobert talks to Joe Baladi, author of The Brutal Truth about Asian Branding ... And How to Break the Vicious Cycle

See The trouble with China's brands

Benjamin A Shobert: Some strategists have suggested that brand development for Chinese companies in particular isn't important because ultimately these companies will be most successful in still-developing markets (Indonesia, Philippines, Africa, etc). One strategist I've spoken with says that when a Chinese businessman goes to an American retailer he is bewildered; but when he goes to a market in a developing

 
economy he says to himself "this feels like home". Would you agree with this? Are emerging markets brand sensitive?

Joe Baladi: Let's start out by avoiding the danger of generalizing about Chinese companies: the notion that Chinese companies are not interested or are only marginally interested in developed or mature markets is dangerously flawed. While many, and probably most, continue to struggle with branding best practices, there is little evidence to suggest that they are not determined to move up the value chain. In fact, the evidence suggests exactly the reverse.

We see a dual strategy that includes home-grown highly developed high-tech companies manufacturing everything from consumer electronics to complex and complicated computer and biotech technologies to an acquisition binge of global brand names and brand name companies. Lenovo was certainly not an isolated case just the most celebrated one - at the time. In the automobile sector alone, venerable Western brands have been scooped up by Chinese companies: Geely - a Chinese motor vehicle company - raised eyebrows when it bought the Swedish Volvo brand. This came in the wake of brands like MG and Rover - two famous British automotive brands - also making their new homes in China.

During the 1990s, I worked with large multi-national consumer goods' companies, where many of the most interesting markets were in emerging economies. The aspirational desires in these markets were the same as in developed ones. Were there differences in resources and disposable income? Of course. But companies that place themselves in these markets, who develop packaging and products unique to these markets, will be successful.

Consumers in developing markets may be less brand conscious, but Chinese companies still need to be successful in these markets in order to gain the critical mass needed to develop overall strength that will allow them to move up the value chain in more developed markets. The Chinese very much need emerging markets as a launching pad for their own domestic brands and their plans to own globally successful brands.

In the book, I quote [Prime Minister] Wen Jiabao when he publicly called for Chinese entrepreneurs to be more innovative and create, and I quote, "brand name export products". Again, it is an absolutely flawed idea that they don't want to move up the value chain. Look at military stealth jet fighters and high-speed trains; the Chinese have spooked the Americans with the former and with the latter they have not only matched Japanese technology, but they have now gone beyond and are now innovating and selling back into the West. We are talking about industrial products in this case and not consumer goods, and while China may be a bit slow in learning how to brand, they have targeted industries where they have established the right controls, and with government intervention have been able to meet every new challenge that has come their way.

BAS: What would you say to Westerners who are overly cynical about Chinese companies' ability to make this transition from passive manufacturing to branded products?

JB: There are definitely issues with innovation and branding with Asian business overall, and Chinese business specifically. But I would say that the development of truly great Chinese brands is a question of when, not if. The recent assessment of global test results where Shanghai schools came out on top created surprised and some concerns around the world. As one New York Times reporter commented, Confucianism is a winner because of its emphasis on education, and one of the Chinese government's top priorities is education. It is a mistake not to recognize China's focus on getting better and doing so fast.

Now, you would think this would mean that innovation would be happening fast, but it isn't. To some degree culture does play a role. For all the good that it can do, Confucianism limits contributions by lower level employees. It demands a very high respect for authority, and in business this translates into the boss knowing everything. If the boss knows everything, he does not often solicit opinions from his employees which means that their creative energies are not tapped, which in-turn results in a failure of employee "engagement". So you are left with a company that wants to move up the value chain, but doesn't understand how to do that. A lot of this also has to do with anxiety over fear of failure and the loss of face.

Innovation comes from within a company, not from without, and the internal energy of your employees is always the best way to develop new products. The notion that innovation comes from outside (usually from a management consultant or similar) betrays a more fundamental issue of confidence and self-awareness. Innovation and branding is similar to the process of personal development. Identity and values come from within. They can't be created by a third party.

BAS: Why does building a brand for Chinese companies matter and what happens if China, as a national economy, cannot evolve brands? What happens if it is forever caught up in role of captive manufacturer for the world?

JB: It is a mistake to think that China is incapable of moving up the value chain - both with high and low end products. We are now seeing the low end of manufacturing move out of China into lower labor cost markets like Vietnam. These industries are migrating to other countries as a consequence of Chinese businesses moving up the value chain - it is a manifestation of China's overall economic development.

The recognition of the need to change is a symptom of that. In parallel, Chinese consumers are also developing higher expectations. The pace of change in China is not only at the speed of light, but it is also dynamic. I think that it is dangerous for Western companies to be complacent and believe that Chinese competitors will always occupy the lower end of the market. What the Chinese can't develop on their own, they will simply buy.

Building Chinese brands matters to Chinese companies because they matter to all companies. The absence of strong branding relegates a company to a commodity, and there is no future in that. Also, the single most powerful driver of economic growth is consumer spending. Consumers - be they Chinese or Western - buy brands, first and foremost.

Separately, brands also matter because they also reflect the national character of a country. What people think of China is to a very large extent a reflection of what people think of its brands: from milk products, to high-speed super trains. This creates either virtuous or vicious cycles. In that sense, brands emerge as a geo-political driver. The more globally recognized and respected a country's brands are, the bigger the halo effect that is created. That effect is typically translated into power and influence, which helps put Wen's comments into greater context.

BAS: Your analysis of Asian CEOs was quite strong in my opinion; but, to the extent some of the problems are historically culture (ie the role of the leader and hierarchy in Confucianism), is it really possible to change these mindsets?

JB: I am not a psychologist, so I don't feel qualified to comment on whether people - Asians or others - are capable of changing. Having said this, I think it is somewhat dangerous and disingenuous to define - or more to the point - interpret Confucianism in such narrow terms.

One dimension of Confucianism, is definitely its strong emphasis on education and that does encourage exploration, change, and learning, so in that sense I am very encouraged about the next generation of Asian business leaders (in particular those educated in the West who are now returning back to their home countries). Many of these are going to bring back Western best practices that coupled with local cultural understanding will help elevate Asian companies to new heights.

I will say, however, that independent of the willingness or unwillingness of the present generation of Asian CEOs to change, the real root issue ultimately goes back to branding education: a lot of CEOs just don't know. For now, this general lack of knowledge about the importance of branding is the real issue. Getting that knowledge across to them is the challenging thing mostly because they are resistant to the very notion that they don't know. Is this "cultural"? I think it is fair to say that some of this is to do with ego and arrogance that is common to all leaders in general and not specific to Asian CEOs in particular.

BAS: On page 70 you identify a list of "key brand elements". Which of these do Asian companies - especially Chinese - most struggle with and why?

JB: You are referring to the elements of what I call the "Brand Blueprint." The blueprint is an essential tool that provides guidance and direction not only for management, but for all employees. All seven elements are important: core brand values, core brand attributes, core brand benefits, core brand personality traits, the company mission statement, vision statement, and the positioning statement.

Collectively, they provide the company with its strategic identity as well as direction. From a branding perspective, I would say that differentiation is critical. The most powerful differentiation is emotions-driven. So core values, purpose and even brand personality emerge as leading edge. I think Asian brand owners struggle with the "Brand Blueprint" because it is conceptual in nature, it is not visible or tangible and because they gravitate to functional benefits.

Asia CEOs usually struggle with the emotional dimension to brand building. "Purpose" commonly referred to as mission statements, provide an ideal vehicle for imparting emotional brand cues. This gives the company the opportunity to communicate what it truly "believes" in. As important and valuable as purpose is, it is usually misunderstood in Asia. I always ask CEOs what their company's purpose is and they almost always say "to make money." Rarely do I hear: "to build a great company" which is usually the most effective way to make money. Without great purpose, a lot of companies won't be able to make the transition from good to truly great.

BAS: You state that for many CEOs, they do not understand that "neither a logo nor a slogan amounts to branding" - can you expand on the misperception behind this and what it says about where Asian business is stuck?

JB: The widespread misperception among many Asian CEOs that logos amount to brands is, I think, just a manifestation of the lack of branding education that characterizes this group. In my book, I talk about just how much in a hurry Asians are about everything. While this does reflect energy and vitality in positive ways in many areas, in others the result of this is not so positive. Branding is a good example of the latter. To many CEOs logos are a kind of short-hand for brands. It reflects a mentality bent on finding and taking short-cuts, but there are no short-cuts in strategic branding.

BAS: On page 141 you talk about "the courage to be different" - is this again a cultural problem, not only for the CEO, but also for the people in Asia he is marketing to? In other words, beyond luxury goods, is there a reason brand development isn't happening in Asia that is related to the audience, not just the companies making products?

JB: When you are in a hurry to make money, you tend to look at and adopt what works elsewhere. This has included outright replication of not only business models, but also branding strategies in Asia. By definition, branding requires at its core differentiation.

Be that as it may, outright copying has delivered short-term success to many companies. These are now struggling to develop further and grow in the absence of innovative thinking. A lot of these business leaders are trapped in a mindset that relies on the tried and true. They are reluctant to experiment mostly for fear of failure and the loss of face this could bring with it.

The courage to be different will therefore come from individual visionaries and increasingly from the new generations of leaders - particularly those trained in the West. The best of the latter will be those who are selective about what from the West they deploy and what from the East they maintain. Ultimately, it is a hybrid approach that will succeed in Asia.

BAS: Do your insights on why Asian brand building is so rare and difficult suggest that the Asian economic miracle is misunderstood by those in the West? Is it fair to say that Asia's economy could reach a point of premature maturity if Asian companies cannot learn brand development?

JB: These are tough questions to answer. I don't think these economies will prematurely mature - but they could develop more slowly than people think. First, these companies have to understand the unprecedented opportunity that is in Asia itself: the huge and changing Asian population and market growth. Inevitably, Asians will create great brands, but the concept of how to create these brands could slow them down.

As far as Asian brand building practices and the Asian economic miracle, I am not sure the two are related. The former relates to the absence of best practices that at some point will be adopted. As for the latter - the Asian economic miracle - I think that the West has a huge amount it can learn from Asia. Some very interesting models were created by the Japanese, the Koreans, and Singaporeans in the 1970s and 1980s.

Government intervention and the championing of specific industries drove a great deal of the growth strategy that underpinned the Asian economic miracle. To some degree competition was suspended in favor of the perceived greater good of strengthening the national economic strength of these countries. But it is important to remember that the sectors which most benefited from this strategy were heavy industry, and not brand-sensitive consumer goods.

As to your second question, I do think that many Asian economies will not reach or deliver to the potential they are capable of unless they create strong global consumer brands. Doing so will not only engage Asian consumers. They will do more - they will emerge as catalysts that will impact the world. This is more a matter of later than sooner, versus it not happening at all.

There is a sense of urgency to this, because the opportunities in the Asian marketplace are so large. If the Chinese don't get "it" fast enough, the Koreans will, and if the Koreans don't, another Asian country will figure it out in their place. This is an Asian battle within Asia, and the West is sleeping right now.

Benjamin A Shobert is the managing director of Teleos Inc (www.teleos-inc.com), a consulting firm dedicated to helping Asian businesses bring innovative technologies into the North American market.

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