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April 2004
After his travels into Central and Southeast Asia, Afghanistan and Iraq, Pepe
Escobar has finally made his way to a truly exotic region of the world, one in
which the people maintain strange notions that separate them from either a more
naturally grounded or a more enlightened humanity: Pepe is in the US of A. His
[Apr 30] article,
Bush against Bush, is a fine bit of writing and does capture
nicely some measure of what constitutes the current discourse in the land of
the screaming eagle (US), but the greater part of America still awaits his
talented scrutiny. New York is New York. Neither the Sikh or Punjabi, Nigerian
or Palestinian taxi men or shop owners in the great cosmopolitan digs of the
Big Apple will give us a sense of how this vast and powerful nation is clumsily
and blindly stumbling towards a catastrophic world reckoning: such people,
possibly cynical and heartfelt, are leagues beyond the average grassroots
American in their grasp of how the world's fundamental conflicts are taking
shape - competition for resources; the stresses of population growth; the
alienation of cultures in the face of globalization; and the bleak
environmental outlook at the village and national level in disadvantaged
countries. To represent the dissonance between core American sensibilities and
real-world conditions, Pepe will need to collect the points of view of the
average, Main Street, semi-literate American and contrast these against what
Asia Times Online readers take for granted, ie, a reasonable knowledge of the
world. It might make no difference in the end, but readers should know that 80
percent of the US population get their understanding of this staggeringly
complex world from highly conditioned and appallingly brief television
representations given to them by a corporate media that reflexively represent
an establishment agenda. I want to hear Pepe's man-on-the-street interviews in
mid-America, contrasted against what he knows about the world, just for laughs
- painful laughs.
Joe Nichols
USA (Apr 30, '04)
Stay tuned - Pepe's Roving USA series will continue. - ATol
Pepe Escobar's article
Bush against Bush [Apr 30] pointed to a
critical aspect of the upcoming elections in the US: that both the Democratic
and Republican parties agree on all issues essential to the interests of the
ruling elite in this country. Above all, they both agree on the continued
occupation of Iraq and the subjugation of its people. It is no wonder that so
many Americans are cynical: they feel (and are) disfranchised. The two-party
system allows for no expression of the real interests and aspirations of the
broad majority of the population. Instead, the elections serve simply as a
means of working out the different tactical questions faced by the corporate
establishment. There is, however, a party running in the elections that seeks
to advance an alternative and begin the process of building an independent
movement. The Socialist Equality Party - which publishes the World Socialist
website - is running on the basis of the call for the immediate and
unconditional withdrawal of all US troops from Iraq and Central Asia. In
considering the issues of the 2004 elections, it is not enough simply to
denounce the injustices of what exists. We must also begin the process of
constructing an alternative - an independent and international movement of
working people against the entire system that is responsible for this
injustice. The only force capable of bringing a halt to the cruelty and
barbarism being waged against the Iraqi people is the American population
itself.
Joe Tanniru
United States (Apr 30, '04)
I commend Biff Cappuccino [letter, Apr 28] for his vast creativity. He writes,
in response to my letter, "Mr Travan, like most people worldwide, is racist and
culturally chauvinist ...That is, if locals kill locals, it's sad and
regrettable. If foreigners kill locals, it's 'disgusting and morally
reprehensible'." Mr Cappuccino may be assuming that I condone locals killing
locals since he apparently has no objections to colonists butchering, raping
and pillaging locals. Mr Cappuccino, killing people is murder. I make no
excuses for locals, foreigners, aliens or any other beings. It was Mr
Cappuccino who arrogantly claimed "Scotland, Nigeria, Uganda, Northern Ireland,
America and Canada ... benefited from colonialism". Just because Scotsmen,
Nigerians, Ugandans, Irish, and native Americans had been violent within their
own societies does not excuse the massive crimes committed against them by
well-armed and technologically advanced colonists. Mr Cappuccino's glaring
fabrications would be laughable were it not for the fact that his neo-colonial
thinking is thriving in the circles of power in many Western nations. As Amit
Sharma notes in his letter [Apr 29], the technology of European colonists
allowed them to inflict carnage on an unprecedented scale. However, one must
accept that the root of these horrors are not in Europe or the West, but in
human nature itself. The Third World has done a great job of harming its people
without help from outside. Nevertheless, one can often see a direct link
between the violent history of colonialism and present suffering (eg Palestine,
Rwanda, etc). I am not one to blame the West for all mankind's problems, but it
must bear its fair share of the burden. The lessons of colonialism are ever
more important today, when many nations outside the West possess the technology
and armed forces to ravage the weak and defenseless.
Gunther Travan
California (Apr 30, '04)
Daniel McCarthy is insinuating in his letter below [Apr 29] that loyalty
towards the PRC is some kind of crime. Should I be feeling guilty that I love
my country of birth: the People's Republic of China (PRC)? I guess not.
McCarthy's view is typically hostile against the PRC and shows the Cold War
mentality that some still have. With such a surname, it does not surprise me.
Not only him, but also many of the so-called Hong Kong democrats. That saddens
me. If the Hong Kong Democratic Party wishes to challenge the ruling Chinese
Communist Party, then Hong Kong won't see universal suffrage and direct
elections any time soon.
J Zhang (Apr 30, '04)
Your article [Hong
Kong polls: The law's on China's side, Apr 29] was a stunning example
of the kind of selective reading of the Basic Law practiced by those who toady
to Beijing. The article makes no mention of the two crucial parts of the
document that cover suffrage. These, of course, are contained in Annexes 1 and
2. Section 7 of Annex 1 states: "If there is a need to amend the method for
selecting the Chief Executives for the terms subsequent to the year 2007, such
amendments must be made with the endorsement of a two-thirds majority of all
the members of the Legislative Council and the consent of the Chief Executive,
and they shall be reported to the Standing Committee of the National People's
Congress for approval." Section 3 of Annex 2 states: "With regard to the method
for forming the Legislative Council of the Hong Kong Special Administrative
Region and its procedures for voting on bills and motions after 2007, if there
is a need to amend the provisions of this Annex, such amendments must be made
with the endorsement of a two-thirds majority of all the members of the Council
and the consent of the Chief Executive, and they shall be reported to the
Standing Committee of the National People's Congress for the record." In short,
an alteration to the methods of election of the chief executive and the Legco
[Legislative Council] is foreseen in the Basic Law and provision is made for
the people of Hong Kong (through the Legco) to make said changes. Why does your
"analysis" make no mention of these critical parts of the Basic Law?
Jake Collins (Apr 29, '04)
The Apr 29 article
Hong Kong polls: The law's on China's side shows no author. Is the
author so ashamed of his/her views that he/she dare not show a name? Or is this
a piece that the PRC [People's Republic of China] has insisted be published by
ATol in order to show its "loyalty" to the motherland?
Daniel McCarthy
Salt Lake City, Utah (Apr 29, '04)
To set us straight, why not submit a
Speaking Freely article on the subject? Oh, wait, we'd better ask
Hu Jintao if it's okay first. - ATol
[Re:
Horror and humiliation in Fallujah, Apr 27]. The common mistake is to
view the Islamist movement as a religious movement. The movement itself is
political and quite religiously ambivalent. We have a systemic imbalance - that
of class differences (capitalistic mode of production) exacerbated with the
typical national and cultural-myopic petty differences, exacerbated by the
anti-modern force of traditions, exacerbated by serious epistemic world view
differences, exacerbated by the typic desire of the collective conscientia to
dominate the individual, and then on top of that explosive and unchecked
population growth and its accompanying social depression. Post-Cold War, this
heterogeneous moment has found a language to express and to drive - the
language of Islam. The spiritual component, if any, is just the lubricant and
the necessary intellectual anesthetic to the practitioner.
DAriush XandAn (Apr 29, '04)
Re
Horror and humiliation in Fallujah [Apr 27]. Spengler, Spengler,
Spengler, you poor lost soul. It's really sad to see one with such potential
for enlightenment walking with self-inflicted blindness through the world,
apparently not alone! The humiliation you refer to is that of the honest
followers of Islam who are forced to stand and watch as the "true infidels",
the radical Islamists, hijack, butcher and soil the name of Allah for
self-aggrandizement and unholy power unto themselves - which all with inner
vision can see. The heathens under siege in Fallujah are a perfect example.
Holed up terrorizing innocent civilians in the name of self and loss of being
the big dog on the block, using every excuse to justify [using] them as human
shields. Allah is watching and the Islamists will die, with no heavenly reward
- no virgins and definitely no honors through history. As for the humiliation
of Islam you say is brought on by the United States, which by the way, from
what I've witnessed, has far more morality and compassion than any medieval,
cultist Islamist radical or otherwise, I'd ask you to gaze in the mirror, but
you, my friend, are blind and sick with misplaced rage. You/they will lose this
war - you already have. Those you claim to fight for [you] don't believe in
you. You and your kind are prehistoric relics that have brought nothing but
misery and lies to the innocent. They now yearn for freedom and to move
into the 21st century, so stand aside, you poor sad creature, and for once let
them breathe.
Scott K Jackson (Apr 29, '04)
Ever since
Spengler unleashed his "shock and awe" campaign on ATol readers I
have been nagged by the suspicion that he must smoke some really good-quality
stuff before putting pen to paper. Now his last two articles have me wondering
whether his numerous detractors have somehow managed to taint his supply with
some heavy-duty psychotropic substance. Without violating Mr Spengler's
privacy, of course, I was wondering if ATol's editor could do some discreet
investigation.
Sir Rogers
USA (Apr 29, '04)
The debate in letters [below] between G Travan and Biff Cappuccino is very
interesting. I would like to thank Travan for speaking up and taking the
morally correct position on colonialism. Though what Cappuccino says [Apr 28]
about indigenous peoples also being guilty of killing each other over
resources/wealth/power is correct, he's missing the point. What is new and
horrible about modern colonialism is not that one race of people killed and
enslaved another for money, it is the sheer scale. Colonialism by European
countries proceeded in tandem with their industrialization - in fact the two
are inseparable - and therefore the killing, misery and enslavement inflicted
by modern colonialism [are] as humongous in scale as human greed and industrial
automation/mass-production. It was not good for the victims and it has no
parallel in history, as Cappuccino is trying very hard to make us (and his own
guilty conscience) believe. It is absolutely critical that we realize this
because colonialism isn't dead yet - it just survives under different names
such as one-sided free trade/market reforms/economic liberalization/structural
adjustment etc.
Amit Sharma
Roorkee, India (Apr 29, '04)
With reference to [the letter of Apr 26 from] Dorothy Archibald, who cannot
understand why people of Pakistan do not support Pervez Musharraf, I am
surprised at her inability to understand. The issue is very simple. We, the
people of Pakistan, want the same right, the right to choose, which is enjoyed
by the people of free world and which was taken away from us at the barrel of
gun on October 12, 1999, through a military coup. Only we can decide who is
good or bad for us. The Western media try to portray everyone who is against
Musharraf as a religious extremist. But the real reason why Musharraf is so
intensely hated in Pakistan is simply because he is the one who has
disfranchised the whole nation. The bottom line is, we the people will
determine who will rule us. The guns can delay the inevitable but ultimately
the will of the people will prevail.
I K Ahmed
Islamabad, Pakistan (Apr 29, '04)
Spengler's article
Horror and humiliation in Fallujah (Apr 27)
simplifies the conflict occurring in Iraq. This is not a conflict between the
West and Islam, even if some might like to present it in such a light. The
resistance fighters in Fallujah are not al-Qaeda supporters; they are people
defending their homes from an occupying power. This is not a religious conflict
but an anti-colonial one. Spengler wrongly presents political Islam as an
inexorably growing force in Muslim countries, and speaks of the "Islamic world"
as though it is a homogenous entity, when it is not and never has been. He is
partially correct in correlating the rise of radical Islam with perceived
humiliation at the hands of the West, but ignores other factors, particularly
widespread Arab disillusionment with rival ideologies such as Arab nationalism
and Stalinist socialism. Why is this important? Because a defeat for the US in
Iraq will not necessarily exclusively benefit Islamic radicals. The defeat of
colonialism in the middle of the 20th century mainly benefited secular
political forces (though of course in countries like Egypt there was a sharp
struggle between the opposing currents). Iraq is a case in point. One final
point on Spengler's false "clash of civilizations" thesis. Don't forget that
millions of people in aggressor countries are turning against their own
governments as a result of their actions in Iraq (I can attest to it here in
Australia). They are not all about to convert to Islam. Rather they see
themselves as part of an international people's movement for social and
economic justice. They are part of what the New York Times last year dubbed
"the second superpower: global public opinion". This movement, which transcends
traditional national boundaries, will grow in strength in the coming years.
Jarvis Ryan
Sydney, Australia (Apr 28, '04)
When Spengler is good it is usually because he is taking a clear-eyed look at
something that everyone else is viewing through rose-colored glasses. When he
allows his own hopes and dreams to refract his vision, he's as bad as anyone
else. The notion that there is anything much left in the United States of
"Christianity" other than some folk symbols is clearly wishful thinking. The
notion that an "American Catholic" maintains any doctrinal connection with the
Catholicism of the Crusades, the Thirty Years' War, and the Inquisition is
absurd. The United States has converted completely to the worship of Mammon.
Americans have incorporated cultural artifacts of Christianity within
Mammonism, just as earlier converts to Christianity incorporated cultural
remnants of the more sophisticated polytheisms that they were abandoning, but
that is all. And Mammonism is, first and foremost, the glorification of the
transient fleshy appetites of the individual. Mammonism puts the spirit at the
service of the body, and proclaims with Louis XIV "Apres nous, le deluge."
A "culture" and a "civilization" and indeed an empire founded on such
"principles" is a house built upon the sand. At whatever speed, and with
whatever backing and filling may be appropriate to the individual case, the
American Imperium will conform to the life-cycle template of all empires, from
the Hittites to the Chinese dynasties to [Isaac] Asimov's fictional precursor
to the Foundation. At one time Spengler knew this. What happened?
Grumpy and the other six
USA (Apr 28, '04)
Marc Erikson's [Deadline
looming, US forces the issue, Apr 27] credits the Americans
as being "in the fore" in terms of the power struggle among Iran, [Muqtada]
al-Sadr, [Grand Ayatollah Ali al-]Sistani and al-Da'wa. If that is the case,
then one would have to conclude that the fact that Sunnis are uniting with
al-Sadr in calling for the ouster of the coalition [from Iraq] is a sure sign
that the Americans are acquiring lots of leverage! One also wonders why the US
gathered 2,000 troops outside of Najaf just to be held back by Sistani, who
warned [them] not to "cross the red line" or else suffer a pan-Shi'ite
insurgency. I mean, it is quite embarrassing to first threaten al-Sadr's life
outside Najaf's gates and then to negotiate with him for about a week - after
which he announces that he is not interested in what the Americans have
to say and that it is time for the occupation to end. It is probably true that
the US knowingly instigated the al-Sadr insurgency to, among other things, see
the extent of support he will get from Iran; but all indications show that the
US had not planned for the consequences of such an act. It is even more
perplexing for one to read that the US could be said to be "in the fore" in the
Iraq power-grab. Which makes me wonder - Marc, are you a neo-con?
RFC Kung (Apr 28, '04)
Re: South
Asia in the shadow of terror, by Ajai Sahni [Apr 21]. The
current happenings in Iraq are very much in the nature of an insurgency, an
uprising or rebellion, against the American invasion. They cannot be
characterized as terrorism, the kind [Osama] bin Laden exports. It is America's
incapacity to understand the Arab sentiments that has promoted their arrogant
actions in the region. It seems that the American administration is incapable
of perceiving the depth and extent of hatred that exists in the region for its
policies and motivations. It may well be that its historic predilections in the
Arab-Israeli conflict have insulated them from an appreciation of the Arab
feelings. It is fairly obvious that America sees everything in the Arab world
through the medium of Israel-colored glasses and oil. Ajai Sahni is justified
in suggesting that the failure of the military might of America to quell the
insurgency in Iraq could encourage the motley groups of terrorists across the
Middle East, South Asia and Southeast Asia to spread their wings and try their
brands of terror on peaceful societies. As regards Pakistan, the breeding
ground for terrorist groups in the past, we have a fragile hope at this time in
the form of [President General Pervez] Musharraf. Notwithstanding his past acts
of deception, especially in relation to India, he has shown signs of some
success with political parties in de-emphasizing religious radicalism and
building a more secular political structure. He, however, faces a big
challenge. The leadership in India should closely watch the developments and
render all possible help to him in strengthening his hands in preventing the
consolidation and intensification of terrorism. Peaceful and productive life is
any time better than misguided fanaticism, which treats human life with scant
respect. Permanent hostility between the two neighbors is not the best of
situations. At the same time, India should increase and strengthen its
vigilance across its western borders to demonstrate its determination to
destroy cross-border infiltration. As Sahni also points out, there are other
forms of terrorism in the region not related to the radical Islamic kind; such
groups can also derive encouragement from the mighty America's inability to
gain the upper hand in Iraq a year after the invasion of the country. While the
national governments are expected to firmly deal with such groups, it is
equally necessary for democratic governments to try and understand their
expectations and meet them as permitted by the laws of the land.
Giri Girishankar (Apr 28, '04)
While your features are very well written, and I have read many of them for
more than a year now, the one-sided anti-US content is very tiring. While no
nation is perfect, certainly not the US, one-sided treatment of issues does the
world no good service.
Jim Six
Ohio, US (Apr 28, '04)
Much of current US foreign policy is broadly seen outside the US itself as
harmful and dangerous, and Asia Times Online merely reflects the prevailing
view of its writers, who are astute observers of events driven by an
unapologetically aggressive and "preemptive" White House. Besides, we also
happily publish writers who are willing and able to offer a coherent analysis
of US policy that goes against this prevailing grain - eg Marc Erikson, Stephen
Blank, John Parker, et al. - ATol
First I would like to congratulate you on your mainly unbiased publication;
however, I would like to address several issues concerning [Asia Times Online]:
1) Firstly given that it is an "Asian publication for Asian consumption"
(paraphrased), would it be more apt to focus on the various issues that
surround the domestic and regional policies more than American woes? I feel
that in keeping in line with its stated policy, the publication should address
more Asian issues rather than the innuendos of American politics or policy,
which seem to dominate.
2) Spengler is not relevant and quite inflammatory in my opinion. Rather than
have a Western arts Christian writer expound his theories on theology
exclusively, there should be writers of other faiths contributing articles,
especially religions which are otherwise minority religions in the USA and
other Western countries, such as Buddhism and Hinduism.
3) How is Asia to be defined? Does it include the Pacific region as well? If
so, there are several issues to be highlighted such as Hawaiian independence,
which appears to be a growing movement.
Clement (Apr 28, '04)
We used to cover the Pacific region but dropped it for lack of readership; there
are plenty of Australian, New Zealand and other publications that cover that
region adequately in English, and it became clear that our services were needed
more urgently elsewhere. - ATol
G Travan [letter, Apr 26] writes, "Invaders throughout history have brought
with them pillage, rape and murder." But naturally indigenous peoples have also
brought pillage, rape and murder. And what is an indigenous people that visits
pillage, rape and murder on another indigenous people but an invader? So what's
the difference between indigenous murderers and invading murderers? For people
with curious double standards like Mr Travan, all the difference in the world.
I say the following with no ill intent: It appears that Mr Travan, like most
people worldwide, is racist and culturally chauvinist. (We all start out this
way and it takes a lot of earnest soul-searching to eradicate this hard-wired
tendency in any meaningful way.)That is, if locals kill locals, it's sad and
regrettable. If foreigners kill locals, it's "disgusting and morally
reprehensible". If locals make good in the local business community, it's
something to be proud of. If foreigners make good in the local business
community, they are "cruel and greedy". "Cruel and greedy foreigners" like the
European Jews and the Southeast Asian Chinese were massacred for hundreds and
thousands of years due to such self-affirming, feel-good patriotism. As to Mr
Travan's hallucinations about the "humiliated Chinese": During the decade prior
to 1997, Hong Kong's billionaires were overwhelmingly Cantonese, not British.
This remains the case today. Taiwan's richest mogul for the past 20 years is
neither Japanese nor a KMT [Kuomintang]-affiliated Chinese but a local boy who
made good and started out by selling rice door to door. In 2003, Taiwan ranked
fourth worldwide in US patents won; a rather curious achievement considering
that martial law ended here only in 1987 and that the political reign of the
colonizing Nationalist Party only ended in the year 2000. Though I don't share
Mr Travan's fanaticism or his weakness for phrases, I agree with the essence of
this sentence of his: "It is imperative that ... rancid views be exposed, as
'sunlight is the best disinfectant'."
Biff Cappuccino
Taipei, Taiwan (Apr 28, '04)
With regards to Don Mohr's letter [Apr 27] and his assertion that "the US is
about to peak its petroleum consumption and within, or by the end of, the next
five years its consumption will actually decline", I would like to know what
his references are pertaining to this information. Also, when he assumes that
[when] more hybrid cars appear on the American market, Americans are going to
change their long-ingrained cultural preferences for gas-guzzling muscle cars
and SUVs [sport-utility vehicles], simply because they would have the same
horsepower, without taking into consideration cost and other cultural factors.
Hydrogen technology is going to be extremely costly in terms of research,
distribution and production and it appears that there is not going to be any
breakthrough soon. Moreover, taking into consideration America's increasing
population due to immigration and its relatively high birthrate and longer life
span of its citizens, that consumer consumption of oil for transport represents
a portion of oil demand, and that oil is one of the sources of producing
hydrogen directly or indirectly, I can safely say that America's dependence on
oil is not about to peak any time soon (even according to President [George W]
Bush's timetable) based on the information that I had gathered from CNN and not
based on my political bias. On a related note, the state of public transport in
America is appalling, according to the American Society of Civil Engineers. The
ASCE Progress Report indicates a trend in further decline from the ASCE's
original 2001 report-card assessment of "C minus". One must then assume that
those who can afford private transport would not then change their patterns of
transport, exacerbating the problem. But since this is not America Times but
Asia Times Online, we should focus on the various successes and various current
states of the local public transport systems. Of course Japan has to be the
world leader in conserving energy as a whole, for producing cars that would
reduce fuel consumption and one of the world's best public transport systems,
accompanied with a culture of frugality pertaining to petroleum, and it is to
Japan that we should look towards for leadership in energy matters.
Omega Lee
Melbourne, Australia (Apr 28, '04)
Re Horror
and humiliation in Fallujah [Apr 27]. As usual, Spengler
employed "selective history" to exaggerate a generally well-crafted argument.
In World War II, there is little evidence that Nazi methods of war-making were
any more horrific than those of the US. The firebombings of Dresden and Tokyo,
not to mention the atomic destruction of Nagasaki and Hiroshima, provide stark
evidence of the extremes that Western war-makers will go to when fighting a
total war. Events will likely play out differently in the modern television
age; the American home front did not have to watch the horrors of Dresden,
Tokyo, Nagasaki or Hiroshima play out on live TV. On the other hand, the war
between radical Islam and the West hasn't yet reached the level of total war,
either. It will take another attack more damaging than September 11 [2001] to
produce that result.
Gary Haubold (Apr 27, '04)
Regarding [Horror
and humiliation in Fallujah, Apr 27]: I have to say this is
by far the best analysis regarding the subject of the war against radical Islam
that I have ever read. Please keep up the brilliant analysis. It's only too bad
that one can't get such lucid thinking anywhere else.
Axel Agranov (Apr 27, '04)
I refer to Marc Erikson's article
Deadline looming, US forces the issue [Apr
27]. I am getting sick and tired of hearing the American bafflegab about the
"depraved" citizens of Fallujah killing and "mutilating" four US corporate
hired guns outside the city. These poison pens rarely ponder and never speak of
why some Iraqis might have bad feelings about the wanna-be Empire and its
bizarre methods of "winning hearts and minds": their country, devastated by the
1991 war, in which tens of thousands of innocents were slaughtered; 12 years of
trade embargo, which sorely punished every man, woman and child - killing
thousands of the latter through disease and malnutrition; the daily "turkey
shoots" from the air by US and British "top guns" all through those 144 months.
Finally, there was the manner in which George's Luke Skywalkers introduced
themselves to the people of Fallujah at the end of April 2003, killing 17 of
them when they came to one of their schools to protest the Americans taking it
over for their own use. This was Fallujah's first taste of "The American Way".
A full, on-site account of the horrendous first encounter with their
"liberators", by Phil Reeves of the London Independent, can be found [here].
(The 10 or 13 dead mentioned by Reeves was eventually updated to 17.)
Considering these circumstances, I have no trouble understanding why the
Fallujans are so reticent about giving up their arms and so unwilling to trust
any sort of "deal" with Americans. Let's face it, world: What's happening in
Iraq is an evil depravity in which the Americans are determined to outdo
themselves - and their "coalition of the willing" is simply a collection of
groveling political supplicants who have no compunctions about donating the
lives of their young men to the corporate cause. This is a cold-blooded
aggression against a country that had been systematically beaten to its knees
over a period of more than a decade, with the rest of the world standing by as
sheep-like onlookers. Now the Iraqi people have decided to fight; and each day
they must endure the American presence will harden their determination to win.
Furthermore, their champions in the world at large are growing in number. In my
opinion, this is Bully America's last hurrah.
Keith E Leal
Pincher Creek, Alberta (Apr 27, '04)
Marc [Erikson (Deadline
looming, US forces the issue, Apr 27)]: I'm sorry, but your
bias is showing. "The killing and barbaric desecration of the bodies of four
American civilian security guards by a depraved mob" was indeed horrible,
although the mercenaries (evidently you don't like the term "mercenary" when
applied to white men, although I'm certain you don't hesitate to call an Arab
who defends himself a terrorist) made their choice. The civilian populace of
Fallujah didn't have that choice to make, their only choice was to seek cover
and pray or fight back. Admittedly the mob committed an atrocity - occupation
by a foreign army can bring out the worst in people. So what do you call the
marines who are killing women and children? Are they also a depraved mob? Oh
wait - they're only killing Arabs! And if you don't want to know about what the
troops are really doing, do what your buddy [Brigadier-General Mark] Kimmitt
suggests - just change the channel. Then cling to your liberal belief that
while [US President George W] Bush lied about Iraq and al-Qaeda, September 11
links and WMD [weapons of mass destruction] - he is telling the truth
about bringing democracy and freedom to Iraq. If someone tells you it's about
oil, just change the channel.
Joseph Osorio
Oakland, California (Apr 27, '04)
Generally I find your site refreshingly objective. However, this article [US:
Procuring the world's oil, Apr 27] by Michael Klare does not
forewarn the reader of Mr Klare's anti-US bias. Please forward each article
with a link to the writer's political biases. If his political, social and
economic beliefs were known, he would be found on the far left of those
spectrums; somewhere in the socialist-communist vectors in any practical
extension of his belief system. That aside, Mr Klare's views and information
are about 30 years old. The US is about to peak its petroleum consumption and
within, or by the end of, the next five years its consumption will actually
decline. Or have you not heard or seen that starting this year and next that
BMW, Toyota and Honda are offering either gas/electric (Toyota, Honda) or
gas/hydrogen (BMW) hybrids as a staple of their current offerings? In fact,
Toyota, Ford and BMW have vehicles with release dates no later than 2007 that
have the same horsepower, something Americans love, as their stock
counterparts. The country you should fear of taking oil sites by force would be
China. China, whose military has long ago published claims on the southern
Philippines - the world's second or third-largest oil reserve - in their "Long
March" papers and doctrines. Let us not forget their Siberian border and the
vast amount of oil that lies unguarded since the fall of the Soviet empire.
China's need for oil should grow exponentially in the next three years. Its
need is already an economic, and thus national, issue already publicly
acknowledged by world economists, if not China's own government. China's
economic growth is an issue of national pride. Already their economy is on the
brink of disaster, simply because it cannot expand quickly and stably enough.
China, in its own eyes, faces increasing pressure internally and externally to
maintain face. It has recently overtaken Japan in raw trading dollars with the
US and wants to be the economic hegemony of Asia, if not more. Please be more
honest with your readership on the biases of your contributing writers. They
lend you nothing to your good reputation, but can easily tarnish it.
Don Mohr
California (Apr 27, '04)
Re: Bush's
believe it or not by Jim Lobe (Apr 24). The US electorate is
deeply and firmly divided in regard to their political affiliations. There is
only a small percentage of people who are undecided. This reality is reflected
fairly clearly in the case of the Iraq war. [President George W] Bush and his
gang have done a great sales job. Their job would have been much more difficult
if September 11 [2001] had not taken place. Most American people cannot accept
the scenario that September 11 could have happened without state sponsorship.
They need not stretch their imagination before concluding that the state
involved is most probably Iraq because of its recent history. At this stage of
the Iraq war, nothing is going to change their mind. The people who support
Bush are convinced that victory in Iraq is definite and the current wave of
violence and insurrection is limited to certain areas and will soon peter out;
this is exactly the time to show firmness. Bush has only to persist in his
bravado and disdain for the Iraqi insurrection till election day and hope that
nothing disastrous happens to the US forces in Iraq. On the other side of the
debate, [Senator John] Kerry and his supporters have not been effective in
explaining to the American people, especially the small percentage of undecided
electorate, the falseness of Bush's claims regarding WMD [weapons of mass
destruction] and Iraq's support for al-Qaeda. Most people rely on radio talk
shows and TV news for their information. Their reading habits and analytical
capabilities are generally poor. The right-wing radio talk shows will any day
out-talk and out-shout the Democrats and liberals. They are also good at
maligning (I really want to say "assassinating") the character of their
opponents, in this case John Kerry. Elections [in the US] are still a long way
off. An effective campaign can be put together and carried out to demonstrate
that the existence of WMD in Iraq and Iraq's sponsorship of al-Qaeda were
untrue and unproven; accordingly, the invasion of Iraq and its consequences are
totally unjustified and against national interests.
Giri Girishankar (Apr 27, '04)
Re the response [by Matthew Conomos, letter, Apr 22] to my response [Apr 21] to
Nepal cashes in on cannabis [Apr 21]. Dear Mr
Conomos, I am sorry that you had to spend your youth among unfortunate people
forced out of the mainstream of society by the imperialist war on cannabis. I
was not present where or when you grew up, but I imagine a place like the
hippie communes in America, most of which fell prey not to cannabis but to
alcohol and other addictive drugs controlled by the imperialist elite and the
CIA-mafia nexus. Those communes were attempts by naive youth to live a life
different than that offered at the time by the powers that be. Many people
considered making the attempt, and many quickly gave it up in the face of the
superior power of the imperialist elite. In my 40 years since that era I have
seen no element of moral principle in the behavior of the elite, to the point
now where the overriding principle of national and international behavior is
(not surprisingly) "might makes right". I used cannabis daily for many years
and never suffered any of the debilitating effects you have noted. I lived a
good life on the outskirts of society, but many of the people I knew resembled
the equivalent of 70-year-old alcoholics you mention. A few of them were old
alcoholics (not many alcoholics reach the age of 70), and others were young,
but they were all alcoholics or drug addicts. I knew only one person besides
myself on the street who conscientiously used only cannabis for good health. So
I must wonder whether the 20 and 30-year-olds you remember were not also
alcoholics. Alcohol is a toxic substance which causes just the symptoms you
describe. I have never known cannabis to cause those symptoms, and so I doubt
your account.
David George (Apr 27, '04)
Love your many talented writers and journalists. But where is your best, Pepe?
Ian Winterflood
Sydney, Australia (Apr 27, '04)
Pepe Escobar is currently roving through a country about which he writes
frequently and passionately, the United States of America. Asia Times Online
will begin running his newest series of articles this week. - ATol
I'm baffled why you decided to dedicate Internet bytes to showing Michael
Moore's semi-coherent, single-paragraphed rant in your Letters column [Apr 26].
So, in the interest of journalistic fairness, I expect Asia Times Online to
dedicate an equal amount of space to extreme right-wing rants from people like
Jean-Marie Le Pen or Vladimir Zhirinovsky.
Stephen Renico
Detroit, Michigan (Apr 27, '04)
The single-paragraph format for letters is ATol style; Michael Moore's original
had many paragraphs. As for Monsieur Le Pen and Mr Zhirinovsky, neither has
expressed any interest in Asia Times Online, whereas Moore's website links to
ours from time to time. - ATol
If ATol would be so kind, I would like to also give my last word on the recent
debate between Frank [letter, Apr 23] and myself. It is simply a matter of
individual freedom that one says what one wishes on any given subject.
Consequentially, anyone must also be open to the right of others to criticize
their viewpoint. Basic principles of freedom would be violated if they were
forced to agree with their government. My opinions stated here have no weight
in official policy whatsoever, so I draw a distinction between "my" government
and myself. A government forcing everyone to agree with [it] is unfair and
unjust. I am still in touch with friends in China and my wishing that they
would get a fairer deal from their government would never make them respond
that I was trying to diminish or demean them. If Frank believes this, then that
is his business. What I have seen many individual Chinese achieve during my
time in China deserves only the highest praise no matter what, but especially
so considering the rough ride that many officials give them. In summary, I am
grateful for the fact that Frank can only advise me what not to say and not
dictate that I keep silent. I will therefore continue to reject his disgraceful
contention that I be denied the universal right to freedom of expression and
repeat that I would forcefully stand up for these same rights for him.
Peter Mitchelmore (Apr 27, '04)
"Manchuria under Japanese rule was the most modern part of China at the time."
- Biff Cappuccino (letter, Apr 23). Mention Japan to any Dong Bei people (=
"Manchurians") and they will tell you: "I hate Japan." Give them a few minutes
and they will tell you how Japanese soldiers massacred a dozen family members.
If you want more detail on "modernity", visit the Unit 731 museum in Harbin and
learn about lethal experiments using Chinese people to test poison gas,
radiation, germ warfare, the penetrating power of bullets, etc. (The museum is
funded by the current Japanese government, so it's likely to be objective
info.) Colonialism means near-slavery and no one on the receiving end likes it.
Lester Ness
Longtime resident of Changchun, capital of Japanese-occupied Manchuria
Putian University
Putian, China (Apr 27, '04)
The article
Bush's believe it or not by Jim
Lobe [Apr 24] was really informative; however, it failed to explicitly state
the main reason for current American beliefs on various world issues.
Americans, like all other people on this planet, simply choose to believe
whatever is conveniently suited to their interests, whatever makes them feel
good about themselves, whatever soothes their conscience. The human mind is
incredibly flexible and can fool itself into believing anything, even though
all evidence and logic may point in the opposite direction. Americans are not
simpletons misled by incorrect information. They just like to put on a
down-to-earth country-cowboy kind of persona so they can later absolve
themselves of complicity in any wrongdoing by claiming to be innocent/simple
folk misled by slick city politicians. The US is the richest country in the
world; it has one of the best, if not the best, education systems; in terms of
Internet access (ie, access to outside sources of information) it ranks No 1 by
a long margin. It should not be so trivially easy to fool the population of
such a country. As Lobe's article showed, a major fraction of the US population
did disagree with their government because they were honest enough to confront
the truth, which was plain for everyone to see and which could not be disguised
by any amount of media bias in favor of government propaganda. The reason why
so many Americans continue to believe their government's lies is because they
are acutely aware of the military-industrial economic system in the US. The
idea that defense spending and wars are good for jobs and economy has been
ingrained into their thinking for so many generations that they cannot break
from this habit.
Amit Sharma
Roorkee, India (Apr 26, '04)
Re Bush's
believe it or not [Apr 24]. Jim Lobe notes that "a whopping
82 percent of respondents" to a US opinion survey believe that "Iraq was
providing substantial support to al-Qaeda" (47 percent) or that "experts are
evenly divided on the question" (35 percent). This massive degree of
reality-distortion within the United States should come as no surprise. Fantasy
and superstition are close to the American soul. Over 70 percent of Americans
believe in the devil; 25 percent are born-again Christians for whom diabolical
possession is a real possibility. Paranoid fantasy exists in the form of
reds-under-the-bed varieties, and at the sugar-coated end of the spectrum, the
Disneyfication of American life is evident on every street.
Henry Laycock
Department of Philosophy
Queen's University
Kingston, Ontario (Apr 26, '04)
Jim Lobe's
Bush's believe it or not [Apr 24] asserts that there is
"almost irrefutable evidence" that no WMD [weapons of mass destruction] existed
in Iraq prior to the war. I'm amused, because Lobe can cite no such evidence.
He doesn't even try. The only "evidence" for his assertion is the opinion of
men who have not yet been able to find any WMD. Yet even strident critics of
the Americans, like Hans Blix, can't explain what happened to the WMD that Iraq
was documented to have had a few years ago. Just as there is not yet evidence
of remaining WMD, neither is there evidence that Saddam Hussein completely
destroyed his WMD. I'm amused by critics like Lobe because any reasonable
observer would have to admit that it would have been quite easy for Ba'athist
loyalists to hide WMD and related equipment. Just fill the basement of an
innocent old building, level it, cap it, and rebuild with no apparent basement.
Or just fill an old, remote underground military bunker, one of hundreds that
date from Iraq's earlier wars, and bulldoze dirt over it so as to look like the
surrounding wilderness. Or simply dig holes in a farmer's field, fill them, and
then plow as before. Or, worse, WMD could have been trucked to Syria as part of
the payment to hide some of Saddam's leaders and/or assets. It would take
relatively few men to complete any of these operations. A few men who could be
well paid and far away. Or dead. Given Saddam Hussein's past, it is quite
possible that he personally pulled the trigger on the few comrades left who
knew the location of such a cache. Saddam Hussein will surely never willingly
reveal the truth. It's laughable to assert that such a cache can be found by
inspectors who visit old suspected production sites. Critics in America don't
admit to these obvious possibilities because they want ammunition to vote
[President George W] Bush out of office. Critics outside America don't admit to
them because, for a wide variety of self-serving reasons, they want to see the
USA with a bloody nose.
Constant
Santiago, Chile (Apr 26, '04)
Re
Bush's believe it or not [Apr 24]. Some of
you have heard the saying: "Don't confuse me with facts, I have already made up
my mind." I will always remember another story - this woman told me: "I don't
want to know what the issue is, if I knew I would have to worry about it, and I
don't have time to worry about it." My preacher told this story: A third of the
people are involved, a third are not, and a third don't give a damn. In the US,
the Republicans account for 20 percent of the total number of electors, the
Democrats account for about 19 percent of the electors, and 60 percent of the
rest don't give a damn. There is no freedom of choice for voters to choose
because the candidates are chosen by the Political Donor Class identified by
David Cay Johnson.
Bill Berka (Apr 26, '04)
[President George W] Bush is exactly the leader for most Americans. Ignorant
himself, he appeals to the ignorant among us. Saddam Hussein had no role in
September 11 [2001]. Our [Americans'] attack on him and the thousands of
innocent Iraqis killed this past year (collateral damage) [were] unjustified.
Keep telling the truth. It might get through to enough people to save our
Beloved Country.
R T Carpenter
Florida (Apr 26, '04)
I have never seen a head so far up a presidential ass (pardon my Fallujah) than
the one I saw [April 13] at the "news conference" given by George W Bush. He's
still talking about finding "weapons of mass destruction" - this time on Saddam
[Hussein]'s "turkey farm". Turkey indeed. Clearly the White House believes
there are enough idiots in the 17 swing states who will buy this. I think they
are in for a rude awakening. I've been holed up for weeks in the editing room
finishing my film (Fahrenheit 911). That's why you haven't heard from me
lately. But after [April 13]'s Lyndon Johnson impersonation from the East Room
- essentially promising to send even more troops into the Iraq sinkhole - I had
to write you all a note. First, can we stop the Orwellian language and start
using the proper names for things? Those are not "contractors" in Iraq. They
are not there to fix a roof or to pour concrete in a driveway. They are mercenaries
and soldiers of fortune. They are there for the money, and the money is
very good if you live long enough to spend it. Halliburton is not a "company"
doing business in Iraq. It is a war profiteer, bilking millions from the
pockets of average Americans. In past wars they would have been arrested - or
worse. The Iraqis who have risen up against the occupation are not "insurgents"
or "terrorists" or "The Enemy". They are the revolution, the Minutemen,
and their numbers will grow - and they will win. Get it, Mr Bush? You closed
down a friggin' weekly newspaper, you great giver of freedom and democracy!
Then all hell broke loose. The paper only had 10,000 readers! Why are you
smirking? One year after we wiped the face of the Saddam statue with our
American flag before yanking him down, it is now too dangerous for a single
media person to go to that square in Baghdad and file a report on the wonderful
one-year anniversary celebration. Of course, there is no celebration, and those
brave blow-dried "embeds" can't even leave the safety of the fort in downtown
Baghdad. They never actually see what is taking place across Iraq (most
of the pictures we [Americans] see on TV are shot by Arab media and some
Europeans). When you watch a report "from Iraq", what you are getting is the
press release handed out by the US occupation force and repeated to you as
"news". I currently have two cameramen/reporters doing work for me in Iraq for
my movie (unbeknownst to the [US] army). They are talking to soldiers and
gathering the true sentiment about what is really going on. They FedEx the
footage back to me each week. That's right, FedEx [Federal Express courier
service]. Who said we haven't brought freedom to Iraq! The funniest story my
guys tell me is how when they fly into Baghdad, they don't have to show a
passport or go through immigration. Why not? Because they have not traveled
from a foreign country - they're coming from America to America, a place
that is ours, a new American territory called Iraq. There is a lot of talk
amongst Bush's opponents that we should turn this war over to the United
Nations. Why should the other countries of this world, countries who tried to
talk us out of this folly, now have to clean up our mess? I oppose the UN or
anyone else risking the lives of their citizens to extract us from our debacle.
I'm sorry, but the majority of Americans supported this war once it began and,
sadly, that majority must now sacrifice their children until enough blood has
been let that maybe - just maybe - God and the Iraqi people will forgive us in
the end. Until then, enjoy the "pacification" of Fallujah, the "containment" of
Sadr City, and the next Tet Offensive - oops, I mean, "terrorist attack by a
small group of Ba'athist loyalists" (Hahaha! I love writing those words,
"Ba'athist loyalists", it makes me sound so Peter Jennings!) - followed by a
"news conference" where we will be told that we must "stay the course" because
we are "winning the hearts and minds of the people" ... Remember, the American
people are not that stupid. Sure, we can be frightened into a war, but we
always come around sooner or later - and the one way this is not like
Vietnam is that it hasn't taken the public four long years to figure out they
were lied to. Now if Bush would just quit speaking in public and giving me more
free material for my movie, I can get back to work and get it done. I've got
four weeks left till completion.
Michael Moore (Apr 26, '04)
mmflint@aol.com
This letter originally appeared on
www.michaelmoore.com and was forwarded to Asia Times Online.
- ATol
Re: Defending
democracy in Pakistan by Syed S Hussain [Apr 24]. It appears
that [Pakistani President General Pervez] Musharraf has created the
institutional safeguards for "sustained democracy". The NSC [National Security
Council] has now the formal role to avoid the periodic political crises that
were common till recently. True democracy at the grassroots level has not
evolved in Pakistan. Historically, the people of the sub-continent have not had
that tradition. The transition from pre-independence governance to meeting the
challenges and responsibilities of a true democratic rule has not been smooth,
allowing politicians of influence to exploit the situations for their own
personal benefits. In the case of Pakistan, it has been relatively more
crisis-ridden than in India. Under the circumstances, an enlightened leadership
is what is required to build proper traditions from the grassroots level. It is
now up to Musharraf to develop and present his vision for the country and let
the people at all levels participate in discussing it to establish national
goals. He has to make sure that public participation becomes the tradition.
Party leaders and elected representatives must be expected to nourish these
traditions and be working for people's interests. Musharraf must also see to it
that the military is weaned away from its tradition of interfering with the
democratic government.
Giri Girishankar (Apr 26, '04)
I am an American. I have been studying for over two years and still do not
understand everything that happens in Pakistan. My question is: Why don't the
Pakistani people either find a credible candidate (one who has not already
failed twice, is not incredibly wealthy, and has not been convicted of
corruption) or jump in and support the president so he doesn't need a strong
military backup?
Dorothy Archibald (Apr 26, '04)
Re Counter-productive
counter-insurgency, Apr 23. David Isenberg is absolutely
right. What the Bush administration and its apologists have shown is that they
are good at blundering on. How else do you explain their mendacity and hubris
in defense of actions in Iraq that are totally indefensible? The Iraqi people
crave independence, not occupation. As Isenberg indicates, further blundering
only adds to the present slaughter on both sides. As long as Iraqis don't see a
future and continue to be humiliated, feeling despair and injustice, the ranks
of the insurgents will get larger. To end this madness, politically, elections
must be held sooner rather than later, to put in place a legitimate Iraqi
authority. And, economically, the parceling out of the wealth of the Iraqi
people must stop. Iraqis want to rebuild their own country, not a have a bunch
of foreign private profiteers do it, who have yet to restore electricity and
water on a regular basis, never mind security.
Fariborz S Fatemi
Former Professional Staff Member
House Foreign Affairs Committee, Senate Foreign Relations Committee
McLean, Virginia (Apr 26, '04)
Andrew Wells-Dang may be working for the so-called independent non-profit Fund
for Reconciliation and Development, but his article
Republican group meddles in Cambodia [Apr
16] is anything but independent and impartial. He lets his imagination run
wild, out of hand in fact, when he writes, "It is reasonable to conclude that
without IRI [International Republican Institute] prodding and 'technical and
material support', the eight-month political deadlock in Cambodia could have
been resolved much sooner." Many level-headed observers of Cambodia politics
beg to differ. The fact is that everybody, including Andrew Wells-Dang, has
been meddling in Cambodia, jockeying to establish their influence over a
gullible government that needs foreign handouts year in and year out just to
breathe. Hundreds of millions of dollars have been poured into the country
every year for more than a decade, yet the Cambodian human-development
indicators are worsening. Wells-Dang's long-winded one-sided analysis - full of
selective facts and speculations - simply shows he has a different ax to grind.
It is indeed too naive and presumptuous to conclude that, without the IRI's
"meddling", the current deadlock could have been resolved much sooner.
Regrettably, Wells-Dang fails to appreciate the real reason behind the impasse.
He is so used to the bankruptcy mentality he has come across in his contacts
with some of the government officials that he could not grasp a tiny
possibility there may still be other Cambodians who do really care for the
country. If he could accept a simple fact that Cambodia has one of the world's
worsening human-development indicators in the last decade, then he might
perhaps agree that Cambodia needs a different government. It is definitely not
the kind of government of expediency like the current one that has overall done
so much damage to the country in the past decade.
Sinourn Sim
Melbourne, Australia (Apr 26, '04)
Dear Spengler,
I'm not sure why you are so keen on keeping the myth of Judeo-Christian
tradition alive, the entire world knows that there is no such thing. There are
Hindu traditions, Islamic culture, Christian dogma and Jewish communities -
Judeo-Christian (hitherto referred as JC in this letter) is simply a blatant
lie. Throughout the annals of history, Jews have been ostracized in Christian
societies. The tale of this exploitation born out of theological differences
has added many words to English dictionary; "pogrom", "ghetto", "holocaust" etc
are used extensively these days to characterize events and situations.
Christians have remained hostile to Jewish intransigence in not accepting their
messiah; Jews never believed that he was messiah in the first place. The
current bonhomie in the USA between evangelicals and Jews is not a result of
some faith-based dialogue, but an opportunistic alliance where both support
Israel for their own theological reasons - one for reclaiming the ancient
motherland, the other for second coming of the messiah. As for associating
democracy, liberalism etc to some JC myth, please read on:
The earliest form of democracy was practiced in India in what are called the
Gana-Sangha states.
Tolerance is a new phenomenon in the Occident, has been practiced for ages in
Orient. When the Christians and heathens were slugging it out in Medieval
Europe, Indians allowed Jews, Parsis and other persecuted communities to make
India their home.
Islam has not always spread through the sword - Malays [and] Indonesians were
converted as a result of missionary effort.
As for Islam being anti-democracy - Malaysia, Indonesia and Bangladesh have
been good democracies for quite some time. Even the "extremist" Pakistan and
Iran have had brief experiences of democracy before they were "liberated" by
US-sponsored coups.
In the 15th century when Reconquista forced Jews out of Spain, they were
allowed to settle in Islamic Turkey. Was this eviction in conformance to some
JC principle?
As pointed out above, there is no such thing as Judeo-Christian culture or
tradition or heritage - the good things like democracy, liberalism and
tolerance are a result of deliberate effort by Westerners. They have worked
assiduously to break free from the shackles of bigotry, intolerance and
excessive religiosity - the ills that plagued them in the dark Middle Ages. I
have nothing against Western civilization (if there is any such monolithic
entity), but the approach of viewing world events through a black-and-white,
us-and-them prism is counterproductive. Iraq, Vietnam and Afghanistan are a
testimony to the havoc that such a faulty world view has brought upon the human
species.
Rahul Malviya (Apr 26, '04)
When I read articles in Asia Times Online I find many things true [that are]
absent in Western news media. Western news media hardly condemn state terrorism
by Israel and the USA and have a tendency to [show] Palestinians as terrorists.
[They do] not explain the reasons of terrorism, rather try to justify genocide
in Iraq. Almost every day Western news media broadcast that Saddam Hussein used
chemical and biological weapons. Unfortunately, I have not seen in any news,
except a BBC interview on Hard Talk when Tim Sebastian asked a
Republican senator why the US administration gave microbes to Saddam Hussain,
then he replied it was for research purposes. I wonder whether Iraqis do better
research than Americans. The USA wants dictatorship in the Middle East because
if there is democracy people will demand the withdrawal of US forces from the
Middle East. Muslims must understand that Islam does allow democracy and not
kingship and hence those who encourage fighting between Shi'ites and Sunnis are
obviously not good Muslims and serve the US purpose. Dictators and people like
[Osama bin] Laden intentionally or unintentionally serve US purposes. Real
Muslims must fight for democracy. I cannot understand why the imams of mosques
in the Middle East come out in the street to establish democracy. What lecture
do they give on Friday? Is it for Islam (for democracy) or against Islam (for
kingship)?
Dr Mahboob Hossain
Niigata University of Pharmacy and Applied Life Sciences
Niigata, Japan (Apr 26, '04)
Thank you for printing Biff Cappuccino's letter [Apr 23], which claimed that
"Scotland, Nigeria, Uganda, Northern Ireland, America and Canada ... benefited
from colonialism". I did not realize such horrendous and troglodyte points of
view still existed among the literate until I read this letter in Asia Times
Online. Invaders throughout history have brought with them pillage, rape and
murder. The slave ships visiting Africa brought great benefit to the slave
masters, and perhaps the likes of Mr Cappuccino believe that the slaves
themselves were liberated by their enslavement at the hands of wonderful,
cultured Europeans. The unspeakable atrocities committed by the Japanese in
China and Korea during World War II speak for themselves. And in America, I
don't believe any native Americans have derived much benefit from cultural
extermination. This is not to deny that colonists have also done good things.
But this is no excuse for their terrible crimes. In fact, their good deeds are
testament to their humanity, while their crimes are equal testament to their
vice. Europeans and Americans view their recent history as one of great
cultural and moral progress. This may make sense from their points of view, but
does it make any sense from the point of view of the enslaved African, the
colonized Vietnamese, or the humiliated Chinese? The image of the West abroad
has been shaped by cruel and greedy colonizers, by unjust wars for resources
and wealth, and by shameless hypocrisy. Perhaps it was the very moral progress
at home that drove conquerors and tyrants to ply their trade abroad. Mr
Cappuccino and other colonial apologists should think hard about the slavery,
rape, torture and extermination which has accompanied colonialism, which, in
the end, is only the modern form of the ancient human tradition of conquest. In
my view, Mr Cappuccino's views are as disgusting and morally reprehensible as
those of the Nazis or al-Qaeda. It is imperative that these rancid views be
exposed, as "sunlight is the best disinfectant".
G Travan
California(Apr 26, '04)
Regarding Jack A Smith's
Bush's 'transfer of power' gambit [Apr 23]: Why all the hand-wringing
about colonialism? All of us grew up in colonies. Every nation on the planet
has been colonized by some other nation at some point. Big deal. I grew up in
the colonies of Scotland, Nigeria, Uganda, Northern Ireland, America, and
Canada. All of them benefited from being colonized. Now I live in Taiwan, which
also benefited from being colonized. Many members of Taiwan's elder generation
have fond memories of the Japanese colonial era. When the Japanese came, they
ended the aboriginal tradition of headhunting and the Chinese tradition of
clans massacring one another. When the Japanese went into Korea, they ended the
cherished tradition of institutionalized slavery. Manchuria under Japanese rule
was the most modern part of China at the time. Hong Kong, having profited from
English colonial rule, remains the most modern part of China today. If the
United States leaves Iraq now, surely the country will erupt in civil war.
After my family left Uganda, the local patriots threw all the white people out.
Then the local patriots threw the Indians and the Chinese out. When there were
no more demonic foreigners to throw out, the patriots looked for a new target
and killed 600,000 fellow citizens by demonizing them as an unpatriotic tribe.
If the American forces were actually to be forced out, something similar would
most likely happen. Although the public argument against colonialism is usually
some version of the claim that wily omnipotent foreigners suppress naive and
cuddly locals, the subtext is usually a combination of racism and cultural
chauvinism. My barbarous ancestors in England benefited greatly from being
colonized by the Romans. Iraq would be lucky to be colonized by the Americans.
Unfortunately, that's not going to happen.
Biff Cappuccino
Taipei, Taiwan (Apr 23, '04)
Re:
Bush's 'transfer of power' gambit by Jack A Smith [Apr 23]. The war in
Iraq may be blowing up in the Bush administration's face, but the White House
is working to maintain substantial military, political and economic power in
the war-torn country following a deeply suspect "transfer of sovereign power"
to an interim Iraqi government on June 30. The guerrilla resistance, combined
with Washington's bungling of the occupation, has compelled President George W
Bush and his neo-conservative advisers to reconfigure or shelve several of
their more grandiose postwar plans. But the US government has no intention to
simply relinquish its expensively obtained hegemony over a Baghdad government
possessing the world's second-largest proven petroleum reserves and
strategically located to influence the entire Middle East. The US must execute
three complex maneuvers to accomplish its goal:
1. Inducing the United Nations to become an active partner in Iraq, providing
the White House with respectable support and camouflage for its endeavors in
exchange for the appearance of shared authority.
2. Taking measures to ensure that a huge American occupation force remains in
the country, and that Washington will exercise great influence over the new
permanent government and Iraq's economy by establishing a virtual parallel
regime of its own in Baghdad.
3. Containing the resistance by any means necessary - from massive retaliation
against the Sunni fighters and their new allies led by Shi'ite cleric Muqtada
al-Sadr, to making deals with Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, the principal
leader of the majority Shi'ite population. The entire plan may fail unless the
resistance is destroyed or reduced to occasional attacks against
Pentagon-controlled Iraqi security forces.
An important consequence of this plan, if successful in its opening stages, is
that it may help re-elect Bush of Baghdad to a second term in November. Even if
he is defeated by the Democrats, a John Kerry administration does not appear
politically indisposed to implementing a similar design ... The Bush
administration's intention to create a neo-colonial dependency under the guise
of building democracy and restoring sovereignty may well degenerate into a
fragile house of cards destined to collapse sooner than later. The two most
important internal factors in making this determination will be the resistance
of national liberation forces and the relationship of the Shi'ite majority to
the new government and the US occupation authority ... The situation in Iraq is
exceptionally complicated and events are moving at considerable speed. Anything
can happen - and probably will, in a matter of weeks or months. Keep your eyes
on the "transfer of power" gambit.
William Kulin (Apr 23, '04)
Since Peter Mitchelmore already knows the answer, I do not understand why he is
still asking the question [letter, Apr 22]. Government is the congregation of
people. Individual person's behavior should not be any different morally from
the government. Since Peter agrees that his government should not try to stir
up trouble in Asia, I advise that Peter should not behave any different. Asian
did not promote trouble in American or European countries. In return, white
people should leave Asia along. White people's criticism serves as a purpose of
diminishing Asian or Asia's achievements are not welcomed. If 1.3 billion
voices are not loud enough to make Peter understand, I do not what else will.
This is my last letter to this kind of stupid question.
Frank
Seattle, Washington (Apr 23, '04)
In your article
Musharraf whipping Pakistan into (US) line by Syed Saleem
Shahzad dated Apr 22, you say that [Pakistani President General Pervez]
Musharraf is making changes politically to make himself stronger and the
supreme decision maker in Pakistan. This might be true, but 90 percent of
Pakistanis agree wholeheartedly with Musharraf's policies. We are moderate
Muslims who are being dragged into this "extremist and unpredictable" category
at hands of a few foreign extremists. [Whoever] is controlling the country
knows that we will as a nation not tolerate any extremism. Most of the
terrorists in Pakistan are either from Afghanistan (remnants from the
[anti-]Soviet war) or Saudi Arabia-sponsored madrassa graduates from the
tribal areas. They have nothing to do with mainstream Pakistanis. Your
[article's] "traditional forces" have not existed in Pakistan. Traditionally we
have always allied ourselves with the Western world, whether it was in the Ayub
Khan era or the Soviet invasion era. I would like to inform your readers that
the author does not seem to know much about Pakistan. So what Musharraf is
doing is nothing new. "All Musharraf needs to do is a few more Wana operations
[sending the army into the tribal areas in search of radicals] and he will not
remain, either with or without his uniform," Syed Munawer Hasan [warned]." No
Pakistani would agree with this except a few rogue elements that have pointed
this out. The people in Wana do realize the importance of these operations and
the need to flush out al-Qaeda sympathizers from the area. So I would urge the
author to do some more research before putting [forth] his views. Obviously,
the author does not know what he is talking about.
Younes Khan
Islamabad, Pakistan (Apr 22, '04)
Re:
Musharraf whipping Pakistan into (US) line [Apr 22]. The
various developments that have been envisioned in Syed Saleem Shahzad's column
will certainly make both the USA and India happy when they are realized. They
will certainly be a major step in the normalization and stabilization of
Indo-Pak relations. The US must be thanked for such a transformation. The spark
that Syed Munawer Hasan, the general secretary of the Jamaat-i-Islami, warns
about could even come from Iraq in the form of a major and glaring loss of
Muslim lives due to the US's magnified application of its firepower in response
to the continued Iraqi resistance. The present trend in the Iraq operations
seriously threatens such a turn of events; it is only to be hoped that
Musharraf can muster sufficient political strength to stem any sympathetic
reaction among the Muslims in Pakistan.
Giri Girishankar (Apr 22, '04)
Perhaps David George [letter, Apr 21, in response to
Nepal cashes in on cannabis, also Apr 21] can
explain why cannabis turns 20 and 30-year-old potheads into the equivalent of
70-year-old alcoholics: Dribbling, driveling and wetting themselves even when
not under the influence. That is at least what I saw as a teenager in the
tropical Australian hippie-haven where I grew up. I guess it's possible that my
observation was incorrect and [was] actually caused - somehow - by imperialist,
neo-con, corporate elitists hell-bent on narrowing the joy of life, but I doubt
it.
Matthew Conomos (Apr 22, '04)
John Helmer's [Apr 21] article
Russia revels in US's woes is a shoddy piece
of journalism from an otherwise respectable publication. Helmer asserts:
"Israel's effective capture of the White House has taken a half-century to pull
off, and for those, like Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz and Pentagon
adviser Richard Perle, who now command the heights of US power, this is a
do-or-die campaign. Only it will be patriotic Americans who will be doing the
dying." This argument, that a small cabal of Jews have taken over the
government to the detriment of the "real" Americans, is a classically
anti-Semitic one. Unfortunately, Helmer forgets such influential policymakers
as Donald Rumsfeld, Colin Powell, Condoleezza Rice, Dick Cheney and the
president himself. Like it or not, the decision to go to war in Iraq was not
driven by a small cabal of Jews, but by mainstream conservative administration
officials.
Joshua Vizer (Apr 22, '04)
I refer to your article titled
How al-Qaeda keeps its secrets by Syed Saleem
Shahzad [Apr 20]. What a web of lies you weave! Ignoring tons of evidence which
proves with great scientific and logical detail that not only September 11
[2001] but Bali, Mumbai, Madrid and on and on are the handiwork of state-backed
agencies, most probably from the technologically advanced countries, you still
continue to peddle the myths that even a child cannot believe. Thank God that
the majority of the people living in technological societies are not gullible
to buy that line. If the so-called al-Qaeda is so mighty and powerful, how come
they have not been able to dislodge occupiers in their own back yard, where if
they had such sophistication, they would have succeeded easier and faster? Call
it a "conspiracy theory", but there is definitely a very sophisticated,
well-funded and well-equipped secret service or services who are behind all
these acts of terror. They certainly are not from Afghanistan, Iraq or Somalia.
Vince Costa (Apr 22, '04)
Dear Spengler:
I hope I am not flogging a dead horse, but I feel your points regarding the
irrelevance of Medieval Persian (Sufi) mystics to an understanding of modern
Islamic orthodoxy understates the gap [Of
Groucho, yokels, mullahs and modern 'art', Apr 20]. I
remember enough of my undergraduate course on Sufism, taught by a reputable
(and Muslim) scholar, to know that Sufis have typically operated on the margins
of Islamic society, and outspoken Sufi voices were regularly executed or
otherwise forcibly silenced for offending prevailing notions of piety.
Al-Hallaj, cited by one respondent as an example of the influence of this
tradition on Islam, was torn to pieces by a mob for such a heretical ecstatic
outburst of identification with the divine. Understanding why the universally
appearing mystical notion of union with the divine should arouse such rage is
the first step in understanding the motivations of suicide attackers.
Doug Slothouber (Apr 22, '04)
Re: Ask Spengler discourses. I would like to share some views about an ongoing
subject that is endlessly discussed one-sidedly in this medium and most others
around the world today. The subject is religion. There [are] endless discussion
and opinions given about the various facets of religion and almost none seem
want to discuss the logical view, which in my eyes is: "Is there any factual
basis to religion at all?" With all the opinions and discussion contained in
these letters and articles I have never seen an opposing view of religious
belief itself. It would seem that very few people in the world are able to
escape from the religious indoctrination and conditioning they have grown up
with in order to be able to look at the subject with unbiased eyes.
Undoubtedly, there have been thousands of gurus and religious leaders in
history [who] have been the basis of most religions and beliefs, but to give
these people the many spiritual and magical powers that they have been
supposedly endowed with is surely the work of mortal humans themselves. In all,
there is no factual basis to any religion at all but seemingly an amazing
amount of conjecture and hearsay on the subject. Despite the fact that humans
are supposedly intelligent creatures, logical thinking doesn't seemingly enter
the argument that all. While nearly all religions preach brotherly love and
peace on Earth etc, there are numerous conflicts ongoing around the world today
that put neighbors, brothers and families against each other purely because of
their religious beliefs. This must continue as long as their children are
taught (read, indoctrinated) the same flawed thinking that their parents
believe in. Logically this will continue. To sum up, it would seem that
humanity somewhere in the past has made a wrong turning in the evolutionary
process and started to rely on beliefs as means to an end and thus they become
substitutes for reality. Humans appear to have a fatal flaw in their make-up:
this is that they are so susceptible to indoctrination. In all reality, this
will probably be the downfall of humanity. The world will not end without
religious belief, despite opinion to the contrary. People can and do live
happily and in peace without beliefs, but very few so far have been able to
escape. It is so.
Lindsay Cooper
Australia (Apr 22, '04)
The letter by Ashesh Parekh (Apr 19) criticizing the article
Beckham, sex and big business [Apr 16] by
Siddharth Srivastava was quite pointless. His rants such as "... it really
makes me wonder why Asia Times chooses only blatantly anti-Hindu left-wing
writers for reporting on India ..." were quite unjustified. I fail to see what
was anti-Hindu about the article. Most of ATol's writers who cover Indian
issues are very competent, and quite balanced. If Parekh wanted to criticize
left-wing writers in general for selectively picking on Hinduism, he may have a
point. This trend was first started by the communist parties in India, who
wanted to highlight that they were opposed to religion but could not pick on
any other religion for fear of being labeled as anti-minority fascists. Over
the decades it snowballed to the point where anyone trying to prove that they
are not anti-minority started off by trashing Hinduism. In the 1990s,
right-wing Hindu parties like the BJP [Bharatiya Janata Party] exploited the
backlash against this to storm into power by whipping up Hindu sentiment and
deriding anyone opposing them as "pseudo-secularists". Coming back to Parekh's
paranoid reaction to an interesting article: he really needs to relax and start
taking life easy.
Amit Sharma
Roorkee, India (Apr 22, '04)
No wonder Daniel McCarthy [letter, Apr 21] likes Gary LaMoshi [Hong
Kong politics: Business as usual, Apr 8] so much. He can't
seem to help himself. He is following LaMoshi's footsteps of propping up straw
men and then feeling good for himself for striking them down so valiantly. He
is also trying very hard to distort the content of my letter (Apr 20) so as to
place me into an imaginary extreme and make himself look good to other readers.
Why else would McCarthy accuse David O'Rear, Hong Kong Chamber of Commerce
chief economist, of "butt[ing] into Gary LaMoshi's article-drafting process"
when it was clear that O'Rear merely protested for not being contacted for
clarification of his statements prior to being distorted by LaMoshi? Why else
would McCarthy allege that I was saying "Hong Kong/China have a democratic
political system" when nothing of the sort was indicated even remotely in my
letter? I still believe it is a candid reflection of facts in Hong Kong's
political reality for O'Rear to say "We have more democracy than most other
Asian countries" and "Plus many overseas companies are very active throughout
the region." No matter how hard McCarthy tries, these statements still remain
undisputed and unchallenged at all. A vibrant economic system will never be
sustained by itself if it is not accommodated by a tolerant and nourishing
political climate. I am sure McCarthy is familiar with Chicken Little and the
Falling Sky, as that is exactly how he sounds like to me at least.
Jay Liu
USA (Apr 22, '04)
I predicted that Frank [letter, Apr 21] would react the way he did. Namely, he
didn't really answer the question and went on again to accuse anyone
criticizing the Chinese government or his viewpoint as "promoting troubles".
The most predictable response was to level the same accusation at me, which is
absurd. Frank claims that some ("non-Asians" as mentioned before) should not
voice opinions about certain matters. Is this treating others as they wish to
be treated? Governments should be careful how they comment on other countries'
policies, but I am a private citizen and will say what I wish. I welcome Frank
to do the same: I firmly believe that his freedom of speech is as important as
mine, no matter how much we may disagree with each other. I hope he agrees with
this. I don't want to get into a slanging match - I was merely pointing out
what I believed to be a racially prejudiced viewpoint. I still don't feel that
this has been answered. Next, Frank's two questions to me. This is Asia Times
Online, so views about other places are not appropriate here. To answer his
questions, though: I know nothing about Tahiti, having never been there;
Northern Ireland is not a question of independence but whether it is to belong
to the United Kingdom or the Republic of Ireland. I think that all sides
concerned should talk their problems through, and that it should be given back
to the Irish. Finally, I lived in China for four years, mostly because I wanted
to get to know the country, people and culture. So having left I still have a
special interest in it. I welcome any comments by Frank on any subject
whatsoever, as is his and everyone's right, which is why I wrote my previous
letter [Apr 16] in the first place.
Peter Mitchelmore
Calgary, Alberta (Apr 22, '04)
I am just writing to congratulate you for use of neutral language and not
making out that Arabs are all stupid and are hindering the USA and Britain
doing their good deeds. Actually, if you study a bit of history you will find
many similarities to when America was preparing the public for destroying Japan
in World War II. They had superman killing Japanese - Hollywood helped to
educate the ordinary ignorant people to know who the enemy was. The same
propaganda was apparent when the Russians were the enemy. I guess it's the
media's job to misinform people and rally support for their country. But it is
good to know that one can read neutral reports at Asian Times Online. I will
tell all my friends about your site too.
kb (Apr 22, '04)
[Re
Russia revels in US's discomfort, Apr 21.] I think John Helmer's
assessment is the right one. While there are no reports of ordinary Russians
celebrating American troubles, from the viewpoint of simple benefit flow, this
ill-considered American foray into the heart of the Arab world may be turning
into Russia's ticket to a sound and lasting economic recovery. If Americans
keep debasing their currency by outsized military spending - thus boosting
prices of basic inputs like fuels and metals - Russia has a better than even
chance of finding itself in a position of being the main beneficiary of US
profligacy and fiscal mismanagement. Being the best chess players in the world,
Russians are probably interested in US fighting in Iraq for as long as
possible, because they understand that after America loses - as it inevitably
will, being engaged in unwinnable conflict - Russia, and the rest of Europe,
will have to face resulting Arab resurgence all by themselves. All that
Russians want to achieve at this point is to use every remaining speck of time
to try to rectify their economy sufficiently so that they could protect
themselves once much-publicized American resolve turns to doubts turns to
remorse turns to retreat turns to humiliating withdrawal - and the gravity of
US error becomes self-evident, and consequences for Europe lethal. Give it some
20 years. Russia feels all the urgency in the world. Or it should.
Oleg Beliakovich
Seattle, Washington (Apr 21, '04)
[Re
Russia revels in US' discomfort, Apr 21.] "For Russia, it is crucial to
prevent the deteriorating US position in Iraq from becoming the policy of
perpetual war and territorial aggrandizement, which has characterized the
Israeli policy for decades. To this end, having such a person as [George W]
Bush in the White House may be preferable, if the extremists around Bush can be
defeated by the simple facts on the battlefield." This statement is refuted by
a review of basic facts. Over the past several decades, far from continued
territorial aggrandizement, Israeli policy has been marked by a continual loss
of territory: first the Sinai (with all of its oil) in the late '70s, followed
by southern Lebanon, and now perhaps Gaza. While I wish that they would get out
of much more land much quicker, it is ridiculous to characterize their policy
over the past few decades as that of expansion. To where have they expanded
since 1967? The Bush administration made a huge mistake three years ago by
abandoning [Bill] Clinton's peace initiatives, which means that they must get
[more deeply] involved in that hopeless mess now. If the US policy were truly
to follow the Israeli model, it would be a policy of national self-destruction,
which would create instability that would hurt far more than just Americans
around the globe.
Ben Silverman (Apr 21, '04)
Your article
Nepal cashes in on cannabis [Apr 21] by Sudha Ramachandran displays the
ignorance about cannabis which is actively promoted by disinformation not only
by the US ruling "elite" but by its puppets throughout the world, including the
UN. It accepts cannabis as some kind of evil substance when in truth cannabis
is a good. Its danger is only to those of the ruling "elite" who do not want
people to experience awareness or joy by any means other than those they
control, for any purpose other than their purpose of social control. Cannabis
is dangerous because it produces an awareness of life which does not conform to
the elite's imperial purpose. It is no accident that the worldwide "war on
terror" and "war on drugs" operate hand in hand: they are integral to the true
war being waged, which is a war on dissent. Not only must the people of the
world be controlled, their thoughts must be controlled so they do not realize
their imprisonment. Cannabis allows us a window through which we view the world
from a different perspective, one in which the elite's manipulation becomes
quite obvious. Intended or not, your article is merely another manipulation of
reality. I do not know much about Nepal other than the occasional news report
of increasing poverty and huge numbers of deaths on both sides of a civil war.
But to me that precisely describes imperialism at work: demonize the humans,
humanize the demons.
David George
US (Apr 21, '04)
[Re
Occupation highlights superpower's limits, Apr 20.] It's all over money
and the privatization of the world's resources. Every country should
nationalize its banks and protect its resources. If a country doesn't submit to
free trade, it may end up like Iraq. To hell with free trade and the world's
middlemen who are out to destroy us. America is not to blame. It is individuals
therein and in every country where politicians play traitor to their people.
Gavin Oughton
Australia (Apr 21, '04)
[Re
Occupation highlights superpower's limits, Apr 20.] Another
thoughtful article written by Henry Liu. It would take a bit more time for the
current US presidency to learn about its lack of wisdom.
Andy
Indianapolis, Indiana (Apr 21, '04)
[Re] 9-11:
The big question remains unasked [Apr 20] by Jack A Smith. This man
tells it like it is. My opinions in all respects, except Mr Smith writes it
much better than I ever could. Where is an American leader with the fortitude
to say all of this to the American public? And, in addition to Mr Smith's
testament, our entire population is fed propaganda and mindless TV news, our
president is a mendacious religious fanatic, his advisers and cabinet are
secretive and vindictive in their wielding of state power, we've started
declaring war on people without even a trumped-up reason, our government has
destroyed many of our social-justice and environmental laws, and both of our
major political parties support all of this malarkey ... where will all of this
end? The more I learn about the United States and its government, the more
ashamed I become to be one of its citizens. Thank you ATol and Mr Smith.
Ken Moreau
New Orleans, Louisiana (Apr 21, '04)
In reading the various letters to the editor about Islam baffling America [in
response to
Why Islam baffles America, Apr 16], the hate and bias that
permeate the ideas of so many very intelligent people is disheartening. Is it
really so hard to understand that all religions teach us to love others and
pray. How humans can muck up such a simple concept is beyond me (these folks
think too much!). Can we not just try to be friendly, neighborly and helpful to
all, regardless of race, color, or religion? Singapore is a good example of a
society where "getting along" works well. Yes the government is strong, and the
human elements of bias and hate can be found, but overall, interracial and
inter-religious relations are cultivated into a truly friendly neighborhood.
Other nations could learn from the model.
Mohammad Hakim
Singapore (Apr 21, '04)
Jay Liu's [Apr 20] letter concerning [Hong Kong Chamber of Commerce chief
economist David] O'Rear trying to butt into Gary LaMoshi's [Hong
Kong politics: Business as usual, Apr 8] article-drafting process
has woven through it a fundamental confusion between political and economic
systems. Democracy and dictatorship are political systems. Capitalism and
communism/socialism are economic systems. Mr Liu seems somehow confused to the
point of thinking that "Plus many overseas companies are very active throughout
the region" somehow proves that Hong Kong/China have a democratic political
system rather than a political system based on dictatorship. The West has long
acknowledged and praised Hong Kong's capitalistic economic system (even as it
has been eroded and corrupted by China since 1997), but no one should confuse
that with a democratic political system, which Hong Kong clearly lacks.
Daniel McCarthy
Salt Lake City, Utah (Apr 21, '04)
I agree with YY's letter [Apr 19] totally. There are many distinguished
Asian-Americans like Gary Locke, Michelle Kwan, Yo Yo Ma. They did not become
equal by "wiggling their tails". Their stories prove that Asians could do great
things when they are treated equally. Hong Kong's British masters never treated
Chinese equally. I do not know why YY is missing his British masters. The two
possibilities had been discussed in my previous letter [Apr 15]. To answer
Peter Mitchelmore's question [letter, Apr 16], I think equality goes both ways.
Independence movements exist everywhere. Spain, France, Britain, the USA,
Canada, India, Russia, China and many other countries all have similar people
who are trying to promote independence inside their own country. The reasons
are that they do not like to be controlled by their government. However, that
is that country's internal affair. If countries start to promote and support
another country's independence movement, there will be no peace in this world.
I do not think Asians should trying to promote independence in Hawaii. I do not
think Americans should promote troubles in Hong Kong either. This way, we can
all live in peace. Why doesn't Peter Mitchelmore voice his opinion about Tahiti
independence? Why doesn't Peter Mitchelmore care about Northern Ireland
independence? I think Peter Mitchelmore needs to treat other people the same
way he wants to be treated.
Frank
Seattle, Washington (Apr 21, '04)
Re
9-11: The big question remains unasked [Apr 20]. This
article rightfully asks the question of why the 9-11 Commission on terrorist
attacks on the United States has yet to ask the question of why the attacks had
to occur at all. I'll tell you. It's because we [Americans] just plain suck,
and anyone in the world could have justifiably performed those acts of
retribution on us. If you don't believe me, go watch the next time the US sends
its marines to protect Americans from harm's way, shooting the first native
they see, or stepping over a dead body or two as long as our people get to a
waiting plane unharmed. You'd think we learned foreign relations from the
British Empire without having the inconvenience of stopping for tea time -
we're [not] bound by ritual any more than we're bound by sentiment. It might as
well be anyone, that's who. The US would need a "Department of Karma" to start
figuring it out. We've become the symbols of wealth, white skin, oppression and
arrogance. Gee ... I hate me already. Was all the outpouring of sympathy over
that fateful day as real as it sounded? Maybe it was just the polite thing to
do. It's also definitely true that folks beyond our borders just don't
understand a good congressional investigation - American-style. The only tool
required is a shovel, and it's not to bury the dead. If you think the JFK
Commission was disingenuous, you'd have loved the Rockefeller Commission Report
on (American) Violence in the late 1960s. It was so honest the US government
disowned it - calling it delusional, among other things. The truth is
inconvenient, reality is as relative as TV shows can make it. If something
makes enough money, it's real enough. But there's no reason to keep you and
Asia Times Online readers from playing a reality game of your own. My guess is
that Latin Americans were behind the attacks. Why? Because they have the most
reasons, and have suffered enough "sublimation" to make any good Arab
organization have to wait in line for a crack at us. All our symbols of power
are symbols of repression to our neighbors, too. And they're not even
anti-Semites; there's no connection to Israeli power that might send a mixed
message to the world. Their hatred of us is often almost as pure as it is
deserved. So what's your guess? By the way, I'm really not as heartless as I
sound despite the rhetoric. If there's injustice in all the proceedings in
Washington, the families of those [who have] lost loved ones can't possibly
express their frustration and anger at the commission not pursuing the most
promising reason that September 11 doesn't have to happen again. For that the
commission would have to resurrect George Santayana.
Frank Stellagh
St Louis, Missouri (Apr 20, '04)
In Spengler's [Of
Groucho, yokels, mullahs and modern 'art', Apr 20], he
criticizes his critics, saying: "It is pointless to cherry-pick out of
religious traditions what one finds appealing." But surely this is what he did
in the article to which they object? Thanks for
9-11: The big question remains unasked [Apr
20] by Jack A Smith. This sort of summary [of] events and brief suggestion for
changed behavior is why I read ATol first thing every morning.
Lester Ness
Putian University
Putian City, China (Apr 20, '04)
[Re
How al-Qaeda keeps its secrets, Apr 20.] I do not understand
why we have [been] blaming [the terror attacks of September 11, 2001] on
al-Qaeda, since the FBI [US Federal Bureau of Investigation] itself concluded
that it does not have any evidence of al-Qaeda involvement in September 11.
Also I have investigated myself with many airline pilots, [and] they all laugh
at the September 11 matter [being blamed] on a six-months-trained pilot hitting
the WTC [World Trade Center] precisely. They agreed [that] even an expert pilot
would have problems to [maneuver] a plane like a Boeing 767 and hit a building
like a sharpshooter. They all said blaming [this] on 19 young men with a
maximum six months' small-plane training is nothing but funny. Regarding the
arrest of so-called top al-Qaeda terrorists in Pakistan: the US failed to bring
any of them to court in the US or Germany. The US even failed to arrange a TV
system conference with those so-called arrested "top guns". This clearly shows
the USA or Pakistan [has] failed to arrest a real top gun as of yet.
R Wasty (Apr 20, '04)
Just wanted to tell you that I totally agreed with [Henry C K] Liu's article on
the US misuse of its superpower status [Occupation
highlights superpower's limits, Apr 20]. I appreciated the
article, Mr Liu, thanks.
Sumbal Naqi (Apr 20, '04)
[I] read with interest Yoel Sano's review [Japan's
turning point, quest for identity, Apr 17] of John Nathan's Japan
Unbound: A Volatile Nation's Quest for Pride and Purpose. The review
wasn't bad, but it was irksome to encounter the references to
"Scandinavian-style quasi-social-democratic [political setting]",
"European-style" setting, and then the characterization of [Tokyo Governor
Shintaro] Ishihara as "a George W Bush-style tough leader". It appears that
Sano lacks the imagination to view Japan's specifics for what they are. The
reviewer fails to remove the Western glasses before reading this book on Japan
- and is, in this sense, a rather standard Western-style writer.
Cho Noa (Apr 20, '04)
I apologize for using a wrong quote in my letter (Apr 14) to make my point and
for not reading more carefully as I should have and as I admonished other
readers when I complained that they were not reading what I wrote carefully
enough to get my points (Letter, Apr 8). Nonetheless, it is still not
appropriate for Gary LaMoshi to distort what David O'Rear, chief economist at
the Hong Kong Chamber of Commerce, said. While responding to a letter from
O'Rear (Apr 8), LaMoshi asserted without any factual basis that O'Rear meant to
say "what Beijing did was okay and not a big deal" when he was actually quoted
as saying "We have more democracy than most other Asian countries" and "Plus
many overseas companies are very active throughout the region". LaMoshi was
still attacking a straw man and putting his words into O'Rear's mouth. So far
what O'Rear said remains truthful observations of facts in Hong Kong's
political reality, undisputed and unchallenged at all. Is O'Rear going to get
an apology that he is still waiting for? G Travan's letter (Apr 9) accurately
pointed out some important historical roots of the current problem in Hong
Kong's political system. Since LaMoshi [has] acknowledged [Gary
LaMoshi responds to readers, Apr 17] that he is not familiar
with historical facts before 1995 when he arrived in Hong Kong, it will be
beneficial for him to take another look at some essentials of UK-China dealings
from the early 1980s leading up to the 1997 sovereignty transfer. It may be
useful to point out that current conflicts in India-Pakistan and
Israel-Palestine relations also have their origins in the British Empire
relinquishing its rules in those regions.
Jay Liu
USA (Apr 20, '04)
Editor's note: Friday's Letters page update was intended to include a link to a
response to readers by Gary LaMoshi regarding his Apr 8 article
Hong Kong politics: Business as usual, but
the link did not work. It has been fixed, and the LaMoshi piece can also be
accessed
here. - ATol
Not sure what Ritt Goldstein was trying to say in the article about
Saddam's capture [Saddam's
capture revisited, Apr 17]. However, the anti-American
feeling was evident. As an American (non-military) who has been there (Iraq), I
would pass on these thoughts:
a. We are there, and we are going to stay there until we are no longer needed.
b. What I saw there was a grateful people, but a confused people.
c. What is going on now is nothing more than an internal power struggle, the
religious "nuts" who live in the 10th century vs anything that might reduce
their power in the country.
RKW (Apr 19, '04)
After reading this [Beckham,
sex and big business, Apr 16], it really makes me wonder why
Asia Times chooses only blatantly anti-Hindu left-wing writers for reporting on
India. What on earth does an average Indian care about [David] Beckham and his
sexcapades or Clinton-Lewinsky or so forth? If he wants to talk something
relevant, how about some juicy stories on "retards" like Rahul Gandhi and his
Colombian girlfriend? After all, the leading opposition party is casting it as
its future ...
Ashesh Parikh (Apr 19, '04)
Dear Spengler: Your pieces are delightful; though I rarely find myself fully
agreeing with your conclusions, I usually enjoy your intention. In regards to
your latest piece,
Why Islam baffles America [Apr 16], it seems I actually have
something to add. In your search for the spiritual experience of believing
Muslims, you ask the right questions and come close to matters at hand, indeed,
"Religion for them is an existential matter, of one substance with the smallest
details of their daily lives." And you are quite right with your conclusion
about how differently each particular religion speaks to its own. But in my
opinion you have missed a few things and perhaps not delved as far as you could
have. For context, I speak as an American Sufi Muslim. I have spent much time
in churches, with Christians - Catholic and Baptist, Unitarian etc, as well
with various Muslims, pro and anti-Sufi, Sunni and Shi'ite. While you may
consider my vantage point irrelevant because it does not represent some aspect
of "the mainstream", nonetheless I ask for your indulgence - I may be guilty of
assuming that you have some understanding of the differences between Sunni,
Shi'ite and Sufi, you seem intelligent enough, so I won't bore you in that
direction. To the point. Firstly, while I don't doubt your sincerity, you say
you go to the most reputable Islamic sources, what you miss is the differences
in opinion on the importance (or lack thereof) of authority within the various
groups of Muslims. When I converted to Islam, one of the first things the imam
who taught me how to perform salaat [ritual prayer] stressed was the
flexibility that is allowed by Islam for each practicing believer. While
certainly, there are all these "rules", but it is your inward supplication that
is paramount - he didn't assume to interfere with my interior dialogue with
God. While a religious leader in Islam can certainly interpret and direct how a
Muslim may physically pray, inevitably nowhere can an imam, sheikh, etc come
between you and God. In Islam, for the most part, anyone who knows the prayers
can lead other Muslims in prayer, which is hardly the case for Christians. That
being said, [Joseph] Cardinal Ratzinger certainly speaks "officially" for all
Catholics, but [Grand Ayatollah Ali al-]Sistani speaks only for his local
Shi'ites. Ultimately Muslims don't need Sistani to intercede between them and
Allah; Catholics need the pope to pray. In a crass way you could say that
Christians have their prayer defined for them by the priest, or at least that's
how some Muslims see it. I know it is not that simple. Secondly, by not delving
far enough you never get to the meat, you haven't asked yourself why Muslims
concern themselves with the minutiae of the performance of prayer. To
understand this you have to understand the fundamental difference between
Muslims and Christians - this may seem obvious, but your article shows that you
do not. Christians believe Christ is God, correct? So, God for them is
basically a human experience. No Jesus, no God. No human, no Jesus ...
(Americans have inherited this, naturally enough, but their culture overly
magnifies the importance of being human). On the other hand, Allah, as He
defined Himself in the Koran, is unlike anything else, Limitless, One. He bears
no resemblance to anything, hardly humanlike. Using Ratzinger's analogies,
during prayer a Catholic "share[s] in the human nature of Jesus Christ ...
share[s] in the dialogue with God". The focus is the human experience, a human
is experiencing prayer, "a real exchange between God and man". In Islam, using
Sistani's analogies, during Muslim prayer, one "manifest[s] an inner feeling
that we all belong to Allah". The focus is (should be) entirely on God. "And
when you utter the phrase, 'Allahu Akbar' ... all material things should become
insignificant because you are in the presence of the Lord." Nothing exists but
God. Your existence is entirely from and through God, you submit to the reality
- to Reality (Allah) - that you have nothing but what God created for
you, including you yourself! (Muslims have demagnified the importance
of being human.) In the words of the Koran, "Everywhere you turn there is the
face of God." Now, I ask you, Spengler, if you were going to talk to the
Supreme Emperor of China, wouldn't you comb your hair? My suggestion, if I may
be so bold, for both Americans and Muslims, is that Americans learn some
humility and the Muslims learn some humanness, only then might they understand
each other. And Spengler, you couldn't be further from the truth when you
suggest that Muslims don't understand about love between man and God. Surely
you must know that the troubadours of the Dark Ages learned their love songs
from the Sufis? Next time you want to know about the spiritual experience of
believing Muslims, why don't you just ask one?
Asallam Alaykum Hu
Kevin Gerrmain
USA (Apr 19, '04)
[Re
Why Islam baffles America, Apr 16.] Spengler's attempt to
encapsulate a religion practiced by over a billion individuals into a rationale
that baffles America begs the question: What makes Spengler think that America
is baffled by Islam? Many cognoscenti would argue that the baffling of many
Americans is a product of dual and competing (Judeo-Christian) ways of "making
love to God". Based on Spengler's extensive research into Islam (via his
readings of selected excerpts from Sheikh [Ali al-]Sistani's website), one can
only conclude that he is either baffled too or has developed an interest in
men's testicles, their use, and/or specific postures during certain esoteric
sexual acts. What is truly baffling in America is the way a Judeo-Christian
treats his/her fellow citizen during the work week and then dresses up for
religious attendance during Wednesdays, Saturdays and Sundays. Americans
hopefully will cease to be baffled when they practice just being
unhyphenated Christians and consider others of different beliefs, ie Hebrew,
Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu, etc, as they would expect to be considered and
respected.
ADeL (Apr 19, '04)
I am disturbed not a little that Spengler's essays have unreasonably become
fodder for rhetoricians to whom debunking anything even slightly non-Western in
origin is a very urgent, almost primal, necessity. That this is a defensive
reflex is obvious, as traditional culture is everywhere scattered and on the
run, but what is not so apparent is that there is a great deal of mislabeling
taking place, starting with Spengler himself, of course. What he calls "Islamic
theology" in his latest piece [Why
Islam baffles America, Apr 16] is actually fiqh, or
jurisprudence, and jurists can hardly stand next to poets in the realm of
divine love. "Theology" to Muslims has usually meant kalaam, yet even kalaam
maintains a certain discipline while exploring the nature of the cosmos
vis-a-vis God. By contrast, tasawwuf, or Sufism, is the
all-encompassing Islamic science that dives into the realities of all things,
up to and including the divine, and it does so at unimaginable heights of
eloquence, beauty, poetry and soaring, passionate love of God. Sufism is the
endearing spirit of the Islamic culture and its very lifeblood. Muslim
submission, therefore, is the awesome expression of a people who were granted
through the great Prophet of Arabia (peace and blessings upon him) a vision of
Divine Beauty so unprecedented in human experience that they all fell prostrate
in a swoon and their hearts divorced what was not pointing to the Beloved. But
this is a long, long subject and it's not conceivable how that which occupied
super-intellects and great lovers for a millennium and a half could be captured
by us mere mortals in a rag-tag exchange of smart-sounding words, born of
half-baked notions about the nature of man. Also, the urge to hasten judgments
is simply too strong in this Age of Misinformation for any real dialogue to
take place between mutually respecting foes. I admire Spengler and his
flamboyant style - there's more in his repertoire than the eye beholds! - but I
wish his supporters and detractors could both learn to love their own heritages
and defend them with reason, not ham-fisted deconstructionism.
Bilal Saqib
Houston, Texas (Apr 19, '04)
I've just finished reading Spengler's
Why Islam baffles America [Apr 16]. I
think that if he really wants to imitate [Franz] Rosenzweig and investigate the
experience of the average Muslim believer, he would do better to compare
comparable kinds of literature. [Grand Ayatollah Ali al-]Sistani's legal
opinions on prayer are the equivalent of halakhah or canon law. For
something comparable to his quote from [Joseph] Cardinal Ratzinger on prayer,
he might do better to look to Islamic mystical literature. As for Americans
having an Enlightenment disdain for religion, that only applies to a few
academics. The majority are children of the Great Awakening. Indeed, the Third
Great Awakening is taking place in our time. Listen to the preaching of Billy
Graham or any of other the evangelists and end-times prophets that permeate the
American media. Hal Lindsey's works are far more relevant to the Bush
administration's policies than Leo Strauss's.
Lester Ness
Putian University, China (Apr 19, '04)
Re Spengler's
Mel Gibson's Lethal Religion [Mar 9]. Approaching Easter, I
had the opportunity to spend time listening to [Johann Sebastian] Bach's
masterpieces St Matthew [Passion] and St John Passion. While
under the strong impression made by Mel Gibson's The Passion of the Christ,
I arrived to the conclusion that they are masterpieces of a similar class.
Besides the artistic aspect and the fidelity to the truth, the movie is an
authentic invitation to renewal of hearts and lives of the believers as well as
a beginning of conversion for non-believers. The public reaction to this movie
has highlighted the profound gap which exists between tradition and secularism
both in the society and in the Catholic Church and the "battle for the American
soul". Based on what you write, I would consider you a traditionalist,
therefore at a first glance I had difficulties to understand the fact that you
don't like the movie because of its "gory description of the crucifixion" based
on the 15th-century mystic ... then I understood. You are not familiar with the
theology of the Cross. Gibson brings the Catholic perspective. The essential
role of the Catholic Church is to save souls. During its two thousand years of
existence the millions of saints and martyrs have made their way to heaven
through the Via Dolorosa, this narrow road from Gethsemane to Golgotha,
carrying their Cross and marching along with Christ. What Gibson tried to do is
to give the viewer a glimpse of Christ's great suffering, enlighten every
person and bring us to the level of contemplation, which means closer to
Christ, in the same way in which the great saints have contemplated and
sanctified their souls. There is no sanctification outside Via Dolorosa. The
movie gives life to the static images created by Caravaggio, [Mathias]
Grunewald, [Tilman] Riemenschneider, Michelangelo etc, as well as to J S Bach's
aria "O Haupt voll Blut und Wunden" from St Matthew Passion or
"Erwage, wie sein blutgefarbter Rucken" from St John Passion.
Elena N Suciu
Ridgewood, New Jersey (Apr 19, '04)
Regarding Frank's letter of Apr 15, he needs to read current news besides
reading history. We live in a constantly changing new world. There are many
distinguished Asian-Americans including your current governor Gary Locke in
Washington state. Governor Locke earned his bachelor's degree in political
science from Yale University in 1972, and a JD (doctorate degree in law) from
Boston University in 1975. Then there are Michelle Kwan, Yo Yo Ma, Martin Yan
etc and many distinguished Japanese-American judges. In America, everyone,
regardless of race, strives for hard work for a good life. Are they considered
unequal "to their white masters"? or did they become equals only by "wiggling
their tails?"
YY
California (Apr 19, '04)
"By contrast, American strategists are children of the Enlightenment, for whom
religion at best is a convenient civic myth (Leo Strauss), or an outmoded
ideology to be manipulated. " - Spengler [Why
Islam baffles America, Apr 16] As a deeply unsatisfied American, I
feel the need to note this egregious misunderstanding of American politics.
American policymakers in the Bush administration are deeply religious. They
truly believe that they are in a holy war and that God is on their side.
Furthermore, their conservative voting base in the south and Midwest is deeply
religious. I do not think that Europeans can fully comprehend just how deeply
religious most Americans are. Forty percent of the people in the United States
describe themselves as "evangelical" and attend church services every week. If
American strategists were truly children of the Enlightenment, we would all be
better off. PS: I think that [Asia Times Online] is a great paper and usually
publishes fascinating, unique stuff. Keep up the great work!
Ben Silverman (Apr 16, '04)
I am writing in reference to [Why
Islam baffles America] written by Spengler on Apr 16. He makes the
statement, "By no means am I biased against Islam; I go directly to the most
reputable Islamic sources," yet his methodology is clearly flawed. He is
comparing Jewish and Christian theologians' writings on the spirituality of
prayer with a technical explanation of a prerequisite for prayer by a Muslim
theologian, [Grand Ayatollah Ali] al-Sistani. Spengler has totally ignored the
whole experience and influence of Sufism in Islam. If he had anything more than
a cursory knowledge of Islam he would have found all the spirituality and love
in prayer that he finds in Christianity and Judaism. Obviously he needs to work
on his sources.
Shahab Mushtaq (Apr 16, '04)
Spengler's [Apr 16 article]
Why Islam baffles America is a classic. He gives us a different
perspective on what we all know to be true, but is hard for many to say; Islam
is all about control over people. Control over their lives, their thoughts and
even their souls. Why else does it appeal to so many dictators?We
freedom-loving Americans don't like to be controlled by anyone, and that's the
rub. That is also why we are concerned about our immigration policies. Many of
us don't see immigrants embracing our freedom. They come bringing the "desire
for control" with them. This is unacceptable ideology for most Americans. It is
deeper than racial, ethnic and religious concerns. This begs the question: Is
freedom really inherent in man or is it a learned experience? Sometimes I think
you have to be born here to really understand.
Richard Bergquist
San Simon, Arizona (Apr 16, '04)
I appreciated your article [Why
Islam baffles America, Apr 16], which provided me with some insight on the
difference between Islam's view of everything - creation - and Jews' and
Christians' view of everything. Your article helped me identify why I do not
subscribe to Vatican II provisions which Protestantized Catholicism. My version
of Catholicism is awe and mystery. In my experience of traditional Catholicism,
I am with my prayers a supplicant. While I may seek audience with God by prayer
at any time, I am nonetheless a supplicant, not seeking dialogue but expressing
thankfulness and mercy and asking for forgiveness.
J Don Batalla (Apr 16, '04)
Bravo to Pepe Escobar for his excellent
Wanted: A new Saddam [Apr 15]. It puts into words what I've long
suspected. Probably I'm not the only one.
Lester Ness
Putian University, China (Apr 16, '04)
[Jim] Lobe discloses his political and philosophical bias by labelling [Daniel]
Pipes as a leading Islamophobe and as a neo-conservative [US:
From nation-building to religion-building, Apr 9]. This discredits
his article in the first instance; however, his light touch with CAIR [Council
on American-Islamic Relations] and ISNA [Islamic Circle of North America]
demonstrates either a willful ignorance or naivete that is dangerous. Mr Pipes
is not only a noted author, but a renowned and highly accredited professor who
has been recognized as an expert on Islam and the Middle East for decades. His
views are no different than those of Bernard Lewis of Princeton, another noted
professor and recognized expert on Islam - both the faith and political Islam.
Mr Lobe would have done well to expose the tens of millions of dollars the
Saudi Wahhabists are pouring into countries around the globe, particularly in
America and Europe, to spread their fundamentalist and vicious form of Islam.
Pipes merely points out the history and the intentions of these Wahhabists and
the political dimension of Islam which does not accept a separation of church
and state, and which seeks to dominant non-believers. This is not Pipe-myth,
but fact. Mr Lobe cares not to hear it. So be it. It doesn't change the truth
of the matter. CAIR and ISNA are nothing but the political fronts for
fundamentalist Islamofascists that seek to support terrorists in the US. If
Lobe expects us to be taken in by their lies and rhetoric, he has another think
coming. Abundant evidence is available through Anti-CAIR website
http://www.anti-cair-net.org. Mr Lobe should focus on truth instead of
invective. What purpose exactly does he pursue in villainizing Pipes while
downplaying the true goals of CAIR and ISNA?
Richard Stanaro
London, England (Apr 16, '04)
So Wada of Tokyo, Japan ([letter] Apr 15), thinks that Richard Hanson [Visits
to war dead haunt Koizumi, Apr 8] is ignorant about Japanese law,
history and the thoughts of ordinary Japanese people. Well, Wada-san, Japanese
law and history about Japanese atrocities in World War II are not worth the
paper they are printed on. What the ordinary Japanese people know or think
about their own history of World War II is pathetic in its ignorance since
their source is the school history books that were written after World War II
by ... bureaucrats, "thought police", an "undemocratic" - to say the least -
institution that was disbanded by General [Douglas] MacArthur in 1945 or '46.
The war criminals enshrined at Yasukuni are just that. They were responsible
for the murder of 25 million-plus Chinese men, women and children. They were
responsible for the 60,000 "logs" (Japanese terminology), human victims of Unit
731 biological warfare experiments headed by Dr Ishii Shiro in Ping Fang west
of Harbin who was ten times worse that Dr [Josef] Mengele and his thugs in
Auschwitz-Birkenau. They were responsible for the millions of Indonesian and
Filipino dead. They were responsible for the tens of thousands of European
victims of slave-labor camps and for the death of European men, women and
children who died in Japanese concentration camps. Every atrocity committed by
Japanese citizens in uniform was committed in the name of Tenno Heika, Emperor
Hirohito. To pray at Yasukuni is like praying at a shrine for [Adolf] Hitler
and his thugs and SS murderers. Shame on you, Wada, and shame on all Japanese
who either knowingly or from sheer ignorance sweep Japanese World War II
atrocities under the carpet. There are millions and millions of us in Asia and
in Europe and all over the world who know very well what the Japanese did in
World War II. Remember, kudasai, that neither we nor our future
generations will ever forget.
AL
Canada (Apr 16, '04)
For some odd reason, Asia Times seems to have a very hard time finding the Hong
Kong General Chamber of Commerce. First we can't be found for interviews, and
now you can't seem to find anything about what we believe in. Try
www.chamber.org.hk and you'll find both our phone number and
statements about various policy issues facing Hong Kong. Among the latter will
be our April 2
submission to the Hong Kong SAR [Special Administrative Region]
government's constitutional development task force. That lengthy analysis
formed the basis for "Let's get the process right", an opinion piece by our
chairman that was printed in the South China Morning Post on March 29 (p A19).
We've also issued a
press release in response to the task force's report and the Hong
Kong SAR government's report to Beijing on the need to modify the ways in which
Hong Kong selects its leaders. None of this is secret, not to our thousands of
members nor to those journalists willing to do a bit of research. But I suppose
for a journal that criticizes reader Jay Liu [letter and editor's note, Apr 14]
for citing the setup by Reuters as if it was something that I actually said
isn't too surprising. After all, your unwarranted personal attacks, unjustified
character assassination and aspersions against my name and reputation were
nothing more than a setup, weren't they? If Asia Times honestly believes it
fairly represented my views, in the context of the questions I was asked by
Reuters, and did not deliberately attack my reputation, then state so and be
done with it. Keeping the article on your website because removing it might
stifle "lively debate about Hong Kong democracy" is a cop-out.
David O'Rear
Hong Kong (Apr 16, '04)
Asia Times Online honestly believes that its writer Gary LaMoshi in the Apr 8
article
Hong Kong politics: Business as usual fairly represented your
views as he understood them in the ongoing absence of further clarification by
yourself, and did not deliberately attack your reputation, in which we have no
interest. Our Apr 14 editor's note was obviously not a criticism of letter
writer Jay Liu but merely clarified that the citation chosen by Liu was not
your quote, and we repeated the actual Reuters quote for further clarity. We
have also given you ample opportunity to elaborate your position on Hong Kong
democracy and explain how the LaMoshi article misinterpreted it, but you
continue instead to insist (a la Beijing?) that our readers be deprived
of the opportunity of reading the article itself. That said, we appreciate your
providing the above links. As for the "lively debate", Gary LaMoshi responds
here. - ATol
Frank [letter, Apr 15] made some rather depressing comments. How can anyone say
that anyone else "has no right" to voice an opinion? This proves my letter of
Apr 15 correct. Criticism is seen as either a "foreigner who doesn't understand
and has no right to speak on the subject" or a Chinese who is unpatriotic and
selling his soul to the "white man". I fear that Frank is prejudiced against
Caucasians, although if not I happily welcome comments from him proving me
wrong.
Peter Mitchelmore
Calgary, Alberta (Apr 16, '04)
I really enjoyed your
Wanted: A new Saddam article [Apr 15]. I
appreciate your perspective and could almost literally not function without
knowing how people in Asia feel and what is really going on there. Alas, I live
in the United States ... and it is very hard to find non-biased news, or news
that doesn't just plain leave things out. The sin of omission is being
committed by all news sources here. I do want people who live in places being
most hurt by US or Israeli imperialism [to know] that not everyone in the US
condones these things. I do not and all of my friends do not, and I am in the
process of converting everyone here that I can. All they need to know is the
facts. That is the problem over here. Like I said, American news media leave
out essential parts of the stories. I swear that if Americans knew the whole
truth, then they would not hold the opinions that they do. And also, one must
realize that half of these people on the TV expressing opinions condoning
American imperialistic action are robots or are part of the neo-con agenda and
probably benefit from the actions being taken. I have to speak for some
Americans when I say that they do not know of the tragedies the American
military is pervading in their name. I do know of these things and I'm doing
what I can to help, that basically being spreading information. Winning the war
on information is the only thing I feel I can do at this point. Thank you for
capturing the truth more than any American news source could ever possibly do.
Lee Jarrod Evans
Jonesboro, Arkansas (Apr 15, '04)
[Re
Wanted: A new Saddam, Apr 15] "On the other hand, there are
alarming, persistent noises of the American military perceiving Iraqis - not to
mention Arabs as a whole - as untermenschen, sub-humans." As an
historian I could not help but draw the striking parallels between the Nazi
method of handling resistance and the new American model. I agree, this is not
a random response by the US. It is a calculated series of moves, rather like
the opening of a chess game. Startling statistics from a report by the Economic
Research Service, "China's Food and [Agriculture]: Issues for the 21st
Century":
Farm workers per 100 hectares: China, 310; USA, 2
Tractors per 100 hectares: China, 6; USA, 27
China, and most of the non-Western world, can feed itself with or without oil.
America cannot. That is about as fundamental as you can get. America has no
choice. It will use its economic and military might to secure the oil, whether
it is President Bush or President Kerry. The power of America is utterly
dependent on oil (to state the obvious). Shut off the oil, even for a few
weeks, and you shut off American power. I watch in awe and bemusement, at times
resigned, at others incandescent with rage. And as I watch the Muslim world's
response, I recall a solicitor I once knew who was fond of resolving issues by
saying "either shit or get off the pot". The strategy is simple - well, to my
mind, which often is referred to as simple by many people - shut off the oil.
The Muslim world has the key. Will it shit or will it get off the pot?
Graeme Mills (Apr 15, '04)
[Re
Cricket is cricket, but Kashmir is Kashmir, Apr 15.] It was
not clear from the article what [Sultan] Shahin's position is, but it is fair
to see the position taken by [Chandan] Mitra. Like everything else in India,
its policy on Pakistan is driven by the vision of its mainly north Indian
elite. Here you have a motley group of leftists (Praful Bidwai et al),
family-religion protagonists (Muslims), foolish sentimentalists (I K Gujral,
Kuldip Nayar), traders (Punjabi farmers) and the beneficiaries of the
corruption in the military-bureaucracy-politician complex. We therefore
vacillate between extreme hostility and brotherly love. The questions Mr Mitra
asks are very pertinent. Who needs open borders when we have enough problems
with drugs, terrorists and money laundering with closed borders? Talking about
trade is good, but Pakistan is a limited market. [Pakistani President General
Pervez] Musharraf and his ilk will continue to sip scotch whisky, drive German
limos and threaten India with Chinese nukes and North Korean rockets. The rest
of people who form the underclass won't be able to afford the goods India wants
to sell. If Musharraf was serious, he could offer, of course for a price,
transportation of goods to Afghanistan and Central Asia.
AP (Apr 15, '04)
From what [J] Zhang says at the beginning of his letter [Apr 14], a "patriotism
plus pro-democracy" stance is probably going on as we speak. However, the PRC
[People's Republic of China] government's insistence that party = state =
nation leads them to label any criticism "unpatriotic". His mindset does seem
to parallel this when he accuses many of these activists as being brainwashed
by the British. Furthermore, Michael Lou and David [both Apr 14] remind me of
the attitudes I heard in China: Praise by "outsiders" was highlighted, but when
criticism came along, it was "an internal affair, none of your business". I
recall also reading an article that [Asia Times Online writer] Gary LaMoshi has
Hong Kong citizenship anyway. Finally, to freedom of speech in the mainland.
David proved Antoaneta Bezlova's comments [Taiwan-China:
Love, suspicion, spy charges, Apr 9] to be accurate when he
contradicted himself and said, "So long as one doesn't directly confront the
state, there is no problem." I have lost count of the number of times during my
four years in China that lack of freedom of speech in public showed itself.
"Lower your voice," a friend once said to me on a train when I started talking
about the Three Gorges Dam. "If we were speaking in Chinese," he said, "I would
have forcibly changed the subject already." China is not a living hell or
dungeon, and the article didn't suggest that as far as I could see. It is still
a country lacking in comprehensive social justice and real freedom of speech in
a society where mistrust and infighting are the norms. These are not just my
own opinions, in case I'm told to "butt out", but also those of many Chinese
friends.
Peter Mitchelmore (Apr 15, '04)
Technically Gary LaMoshi has Hong Kong permanent residency, not citizenship. The
article you refer to is
Hong Kong bucks anti-immigration trend (Feb
21). - ATol
Richard Hanson shows his ignorance about Japanese law, history and the thoughts
of ordinary Japanese people in his article
Visits to war dead haunt Koizumi [Apr 8].
So-called "war criminals" executed by [Japan's] enemies are regarded as
patriots by Japanese. Just after the independence of 1949, the Japanese Diet
passed an act to declare that these patriots were victims of war and placed
them among other fallen for the country and enshrined them at Yasukuni. [The
judge who ruled] against the visit [to the shrine by Prime Minister Junichiro]
Koizumi was also ignorant of these historical facts, and his deed reflects his
own personal opinion. Silent and grassroots Japanese are now very angry at the
judge. Japanese [resistance] to Chinese intervention against Japan is becoming
very high. It is just before a blow-up. Not only about Yasukuni - Chinese are
increasingly neglecting the Japanese interest in the Ryuku archipelago by
illegally sending submarines and so-called research ships into Japanese waters.
Foreign journalists have not yet recognized it, but Japanese opinion
drastically changed last year. Japan took a first step toward [becoming a]
politically and militarily independent country, because politicians cannot
neglect their people's opinion - independent from the USA and counterattacking
Chinese insolence. The future of East Asia depends on China, especially her
attitude toward Japan. If not, the USA will take gain between the two. Note
that these two hold most of the US debt. [Hanson] should take a more global
aspect, and speak to ordinary Japanese and discard English sources.
Wada
Tokyo, Japan (Apr 15, '04)
I am wondering why YY of California [letter, Apr 14] is missing Hong Kong's
British master. There are only two possibilities. One is that YY is a white
man. He is missing the good old times of being the master of that colony. The
second possibility is that YY is from a former white man's colony. YY may [have
been] taught that he can get bones by wiggling his tail to his white masters.
Either way, he has no right talking about China's Hong Kong. If YY read some
history books, he would know that he can never be equal to his white masters by
wiggling his tail for a living. I hope those Asians who still dream about
tail-wiggling will soon understand that they can do great things by being
themselves. Asia will be a much better place without the slavery of the white
people.
Frank
Seattle, Washington (Apr 15, '04)
After reading this [Beckham,
sex and big business, Apr 16], it really makes me wonder why
Asia Times chooses only blatantly anti-Hindu left-wing writers for reporting on
India. What on earth does an average Indian care about [David] Beckham and his
sexcapades or Clinton-Lewinsky or so forth?
Ashesh Parikh
Editor's note: Friday's Letters page update was intended to include a link to a
response to readers by Gary LaMoshi regarding his Apr 8 article
Hong Kong politics: Business as usual, but
the link did not work. It has been fixed, and the LaMoshi piece can also be
accessed
here. - ATol
Not sure what Ritt Goldstein was trying to say in the article about
Saddam's capture [Saddam's
capture revisited, Apr 17]. However, the anti-American
feeling was evident. As an American (non-military) who has been there (Iraq), I
would pass on these thoughts:
a. We are there, and we are going to stay there until we are no longer needed.
b. What I saw there was a grateful people, but a confused people.
c. What is going on now is nothing more than an internal power struggle, the
religious "nuts" who live in the 10th century vs anything that might reduce
their power in the country.
RKW (Apr 19, '04)
After reading this [Beckham,
sex and big business, Apr 16], it really makes me wonder why
Asia Times chooses only blatantly anti-Hindu left-wing writers for reporting on
India. What on earth does an average Indian care about [David] Beckham and his
sexcapades or Clinton-Lewinsky or so forth? If he wants to talk something
relevant, how about some juicy stories on "retards" like Rahul Gandhi and his
Colombian girlfriend? After all, the leading opposition party is casting it as
its future ...
Ashesh Parikh (Apr 19, '04)
Dear Spengler: Your pieces are delightful; though I rarely find myself fully
agreeing with your conclusions, I usually enjoy your intention. In regards to
your latest piece,
Why Islam baffles America [Apr 16], it seems I actually have
something to add. In your search for the spiritual experience of believing
Muslims, you ask the right questions and come close to matters at hand, indeed,
"Religion for them is an existential matter, of one substance with the smallest
details of their daily lives." And you are quite right with your conclusion
about how differently each particular religion speaks to its own. But in my
opinion you have missed a few things and perhaps not delved as far as you could
have. For context, I speak as an American Sufi Muslim. I have spent much time
in churches, with Christians - Catholic and Baptist, Unitarian etc, as well
with various Muslims, pro and anti-Sufi, Sunni and Shi'ite. While you may
consider my vantage point irrelevant because it does not represent some aspect
of "the mainstream", nonetheless I ask for your indulgence - I may be guilty of
assuming that you have some understanding of the differences between Sunni,
Shi'ite and Sufi, you seem intelligent enough, so I won't bore you in that
direction. To the point. Firstly, while I don't doubt your sincerity, you say
you go to the most reputable Islamic sources, what you miss is the differences
in opinion on the importance (or lack thereof) of authority within the various
groups of Muslims. When I converted to Islam, one of the first things the imam
who taught me how to perform salaat [ritual prayer] stressed was the
flexibility that is allowed by Islam for each practicing believer. While
certainly, there are all these "rules", but it is your inward supplication that
is paramount - he didn't assume to interfere with my interior dialogue with
God. While a religious leader in Islam can certainly interpret and direct how a
Muslim may physically pray, inevitably nowhere can an imam, sheikh, etc come
between you and God. In Islam, for the most part, anyone who knows the prayers
can lead other Muslims in prayer, which is hardly the case for Christians. That
being said, [Joseph] Cardinal Ratzinger certainly speaks "officially" for all
Catholics, but [Grand Ayatollah Ali al-]Sistani speaks only for his local
Shi'ites. Ultimately Muslims don't need Sistani to intercede between them and
Allah; Catholics need the pope to pray. In a crass way you could say that
Christians have their prayer defined for them by the priest, or at least that's
how some Muslims see it. I know it is not that simple. Secondly, by not delving
far enough you never get to the meat, you haven't asked yourself why Muslims
concern themselves with the minutiae of the performance of prayer. To
understand this you have to understand the fundamental difference between
Muslims and Christians - this may seem obvious, but your article shows that you
do not. Christians believe Christ is God, correct? So, God for them is
basically a human experience. No Jesus, no God. No human, no Jesus ...
(Americans have inherited this, naturally enough, but their culture overly
magnifies the importance of being human). On the other hand, Allah, as He
defined Himself in the Koran, is unlike anything else, Limitless, One. He bears
no resemblance to anything, hardly humanlike. Using Ratzinger's analogies,
during prayer a Catholic "share[s] in the human nature of Jesus Christ ...
share[s] in the dialogue with God". The focus is the human experience, a human
is experiencing prayer, "a real exchange between God and man". In Islam, using
Sistani's analogies, during Muslim prayer, one "manifest[s] an inner feeling
that we all belong to Allah". The focus is (should be) entirely on God. "And
when you utter the phrase, 'Allahu Akbar' ... all material things should become
insignificant because you are in the presence of the Lord." Nothing exists but
God. Your existence is entirely from and through God, you submit to the reality
- to Reality (Allah) - that you have nothing but what God created for
you, including you yourself! (Muslims have demagnified the importance
of being human.) In the words of the Koran, "Everywhere you turn there is the
face of God." Now, I ask you, Spengler, if you were going to talk to the
Supreme Emperor of China, wouldn't you comb your hair? My suggestion, if I may
be so bold, for both Americans and Muslims, is that Americans learn some
humility and the Muslims learn some humanness, only then might they understand
each other. And Spengler, you couldn't be further from the truth when you
suggest that Muslims don't understand about love between man and God. Surely
you must know that the troubadours of the Dark Ages learned their love songs
from the Sufis? Next time you want to know about the spiritual experience of
believing Muslims, why don't you just ask one?
Asallam Alaykum Hu
Kevin Gerrmain
USA (Apr 19, '04)
[Re
Why Islam baffles America, Apr 16.] Spengler's attempt to
encapsulate a religion practiced by over a billion individuals into a rationale
that baffles America begs the question: What makes Spengler think that America
is baffled by Islam? Many cognoscenti would argue that the baffling of many
Americans is a product of dual and competing (Judeo-Christian) ways of "making
love to God". Based on Spengler's extensive research into Islam (via his
readings of selected excerpts from Sheikh [Ali al-]Sistani's website), one can
only conclude that he is either baffled too or has developed an interest in
men's testicles, their use, and/or specific postures during certain esoteric
sexual acts. What is truly baffling in America is the way a Judeo-Christian
treats his/her fellow citizen during the work week and then dresses up for
religious attendance during Wednesdays, Saturdays and Sundays. Americans
hopefully will cease to be baffled when they practice just being
unhyphenated Christians and consider others of different beliefs, ie Hebrew,
Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu, etc, as they would expect to be considered and
respected.
ADeL (Apr 19, '04)
I am disturbed not a little that Spengler's essays have unreasonably become
fodder for rhetoricians to whom debunking anything even slightly non-Western in
origin is a very urgent, almost primal, necessity. That this is a defensive
reflex is obvious, as traditional culture is everywhere scattered and on the
run, but what is not so apparent is that there is a great deal of mislabeling
taking place, starting with Spengler himself, of course. What he calls "Islamic
theology" in his latest piece [Why
Islam baffles America, Apr 16] is actually fiqh, or
jurisprudence, and jurists can hardly stand next to poets in the realm of
divine love. "Theology" to Muslims has usually meant kalaam, yet even kalaam
maintains a certain discipline while exploring the nature of the cosmos
vis-a-vis God. By contrast, tasawwuf, or Sufism, is the
all-encompassing Islamic science that dives into the realities of all things,
up to and including the divine, and it does so at unimaginable heights of
eloquence, beauty, poetry and soaring, passionate love of God. Sufism is the
endearing spirit of the Islamic culture and its very lifeblood. Muslim
submission, therefore, is the awesome expression of a people who were granted
through the great Prophet of Arabia (peace and blessings upon him) a vision of
Divine Beauty so unprecedented in human experience that they all fell prostrate
in a swoon and their hearts divorced what was not pointing to the Beloved. But
this is a long, long subject and it's not conceivable how that which occupied
super-intellects and great lovers for a millennium and a half could be captured
by us mere mortals in a rag-tag exchange of smart-sounding words, born of
half-baked notions about the nature of man. Also, the urge to hasten judgments
is simply too strong in this Age of Misinformation for any real dialogue to
take place between mutually respecting foes. I admire Spengler and his
flamboyant style - there's more in his repertoire than the eye beholds! - but I
wish his supporters and detractors could both learn to love their own heritages
and defend them with reason, not ham-fisted deconstructionism.
Bilal Saqib
Houston, Texas (Apr 19, '04)
I've just finished reading Spengler's
Why Islam baffles America [Apr 16]. I
think that if he really wants to imitate [Franz] Rosenzweig and investigate the
experience of the average Muslim believer, he would do better to compare
comparable kinds of literature. [Grand Ayatollah Ali al-]Sistani's legal
opinions on prayer are the equivalent of halakhah or canon law. For
something comparable to his quote from [Joseph] Cardinal Ratzinger on prayer,
he might do better to look to Islamic mystical literature. As for Americans
having an Enlightenment disdain for religion, that only applies to a few
academics. The majority are children of the Great Awakening. Indeed, the Third
Great Awakening is taking place in our time. Listen to the preaching of Billy
Graham or any of other the evangelists and end-times prophets that permeate the
American media. Hal Lindsey's works are far more relevant to the Bush
administration's policies than Leo Strauss's.
Lester Ness
Putian University, China (Apr 19, '04)
Re Spengler's
Mel Gibson's Lethal Religion [Mar 9]. Approaching Easter, I
had the opportunity to spend time listening to [Johann Sebastian] Bach's
masterpieces St Matthew [Passion] and St John Passion. While
under the strong impression made by Mel Gibson's The Passion of the Christ,
I arrived to the conclusion that they are masterpieces of a similar class.
Besides the artistic aspect and the fidelity to the truth, the movie is an
authentic invitation to renewal of hearts and lives of the believers as well as
a beginning of conversion for non-believers. The public reaction to this movie
has highlighted the profound gap which exists between tradition and secularism
both in the society and in the Catholic Church and the "battle for the American
soul". Based on what you write, I would consider you a traditionalist,
therefore at a first glance I had difficulties to understand the fact that you
don't like the movie because of its "gory description of the crucifixion" based
on the 15th-century mystic ... then I understood. You are not familiar with the
theology of the Cross. Gibson brings the Catholic perspective. The essential
role of the Catholic Church is to save souls. During its two thousand years of
existence the millions of saints and martyrs have made their way to heaven
through the Via Dolorosa, this narrow road from Gethsemane to Golgotha,
carrying their Cross and marching along with Christ. What Gibson tried to do is
to give the viewer a glimpse of Christ's great suffering, enlighten every
person and bring us to the level of contemplation, which means closer to
Christ, in the same way in which the great saints have contemplated and
sanctified their souls. There is no sanctification outside Via Dolorosa. The
movie gives life to the static images created by Caravaggio, [Mathias]
Grunewald, [Tilman] Riemenschneider, Michelangelo etc, as well as to J S Bach's
aria "O Haupt voll Blut und Wunden" from St Matthew Passion or
"Erwage, wie sein blutgefarbter Rucken" from St John Passion.
Elena N Suciu
Ridgewood, New Jersey (Apr 19, '04)
Regarding Frank's letter of Apr 15, he needs to read current news besides
reading history. We live in a constantly changing new world. There are many
distinguished Asian-Americans including your current governor Gary Locke in
Washington state. Governor Locke earned his bachelor's degree in political
science from Yale University in 1972, and a JD (doctorate degree in law) from
Boston University in 1975. Then there are Michelle Kwan, Yo Yo Ma, Martin Yan
etc and many distinguished Japanese-American judges. In America, everyone,
regardless of race, strives for hard work for a good life. Are they considered
unequal "to their white masters"? or did they become equals only by "wiggling
their tails?"
YY
California (Apr 19, '04)
"By contrast, American strategists are children of the Enlightenment, for whom
religion at best is a convenient civic myth (Leo Strauss), or an outmoded
ideology to be manipulated. " - Spengler [Why
Islam baffles America, Apr 16] As a deeply unsatisfied American, I
feel the need to note this egregious misunderstanding of American politics.
American policymakers in the Bush administration are deeply religious. They
truly believe that they are in a holy war and that God is on their side.
Furthermore, their conservative voting base in the south and Midwest is deeply
religious. I do not think that Europeans can fully comprehend just how deeply
religious most Americans are. Forty percent of the people in the United States
describe themselves as "evangelical" and attend church services every week. If
American strategists were truly children of the Enlightenment, we would all be
better off. PS: I think that [Asia Times Online] is a great paper and usually
publishes fascinating, unique stuff. Keep up the great work!
Ben Silverman (Apr 16, '04)
I am writing in reference to [Why
Islam baffles America] written by Spengler on Apr 16. He makes the
statement, "By no means am I biased against Islam; I go directly to the most
reputable Islamic sources," yet his methodology is clearly flawed. He is
comparing Jewish and Christian theologians' writings on the spirituality of
prayer with a technical explanation of a prerequisite for prayer by a Muslim
theologian, [Grand Ayatollah Ali] al-Sistani. Spengler has totally ignored the
whole experience and influence of Sufism in Islam. If he had anything more than
a cursory knowledge of Islam he would have found all the spirituality and love
in prayer that he finds in Christianity and Judaism. Obviously he needs to work
on his sources.
Shahab Mushtaq (Apr 16, '04)
Spengler's [Apr 16 article]
Why Islam baffles America is a classic. He gives us a different
perspective on what we all know to be true, but is hard for many to say; Islam
is all about control over people. Control over their lives, their thoughts and
even their souls. Why else does it appeal to so many dictators?We
freedom-loving Americans don't like to be controlled by anyone, and that's the
rub. That is also why we are concerned about our immigration policies. Many of
us don't see immigrants embracing our freedom. They come bringing the "desire
for control" with them. This is unacceptable ideology for most Americans. It is
deeper than racial, ethnic and religious concerns. This begs the question: Is
freedom really inherent in man or is it a learned experience? Sometimes I think
you have to be born here to really understand.
Richard Bergquist
San Simon, Arizona (Apr 16, '04)
I appreciated your article [Why
Islam baffles America, Apr 16], which provided me with some insight on the
difference between Islam's view of everything - creation - and Jews' and
Christians' view of everything. Your article helped me identify why I do not
subscribe to Vatican II provisions which Protestantized Catholicism. My version
of Catholicism is awe and mystery. In my experience of traditional Catholicism,
I am with my prayers a supplicant. While I may seek audience with God by prayer
at any time, I am nonetheless a supplicant, not seeking dialogue but expressing
thankfulness and mercy and asking for forgiveness.
J Don Batalla (Apr 16, '04)
Bravo to Pepe Escobar for his excellent
Wanted: A new Saddam [Apr 15]. It puts into words what I've long
suspected. Probably I'm not the only one.
Lester Ness
Putian University, China (Apr 16, '04)
[Jim] Lobe discloses his political and philosophical bias by labelling [Daniel]
Pipes as a leading Islamophobe and as a neo-conservative [US:
From nation-building to religion-building, Apr 9]. This discredits
his article in the first instance; however, his light touch with CAIR [Council
on American-Islamic Relations] and ISNA [Islamic Circle of North America]
demonstrates either a willful ignorance or naivete that is dangerous. Mr Pipes
is not only a noted author, but a renowned and highly accredited professor who
has been recognized as an expert on Islam and the Middle East for decades. His
views are no different than those of Bernard Lewis of Princeton, another noted
professor and recognized expert on Islam - both the faith and political Islam.
Mr Lobe would have done well to expose the tens of millions of dollars the
Saudi Wahhabists are pouring into countries around the globe, particularly in
America and Europe, to spread their fundamentalist and vicious form of Islam.
Pipes merely points out the history and the intentions of these Wahhabists and
the political dimension of Islam which does not accept a separation of church
and state, and which seeks to dominant non-believers. This is not Pipe-myth,
but fact. Mr Lobe cares not to hear it. So be it. It doesn't change the truth
of the matter. CAIR and ISNA are nothing but the political fronts for
fundamentalist Islamofascists that seek to support terrorists in the US. If
Lobe expects us to be taken in by their lies and rhetoric, he has another think
coming. Abundant evidence is available through Anti-CAIR website
http://www.anti-cair-net.org. Mr Lobe should focus on truth instead of
invective. What purpose exactly does he pursue in villainizing Pipes while
downplaying the true goals of CAIR and ISNA?
Richard Stanaro
London, England (Apr 16, '04)
So Wada of Tokyo, Japan ([letter] Apr 15), thinks that Richard Hanson [Visits
to war dead haunt Koizumi, Apr 8] is ignorant about Japanese law,
history and the thoughts of ordinary Japanese people. Well, Wada-san, Japanese
law and history about Japanese atrocities in World War II are not worth the
paper they are printed on. What the ordinary Japanese people know or think
about their own history of World War II is pathetic in its ignorance since
their source is the school history books that were written after World War II
by ... bureaucrats, "thought police", an "undemocratic" - to say the least -
institution that was disbanded by General [Douglas] MacArthur in 1945 or '46.
The war criminals enshrined at Yasukuni are just that. They were responsible
for the murder of 25 million-plus Chinese men, women and children. They were
responsible for the 60,000 "logs" (Japanese terminology), human victims of Unit
731 biological warfare experiments headed by Dr Ishii Shiro in Ping Fang west
of Harbin who was ten times worse that Dr [Josef] Mengele and his thugs in
Auschwitz-Birkenau. They were responsible for the millions of Indonesian and
Filipino dead. They were responsible for the tens of thousands of European
victims of slave-labor camps and for the death of European men, women and
children who died in Japanese concentration camps. Every atrocity committed by
Japanese citizens in uniform was committed in the name of Tenno Heika, Emperor
Hirohito. To pray at Yasukuni is like praying at a shrine for [Adolf] Hitler
and his thugs and SS murderers. Shame on you, Wada, and shame on all Japanese
who either knowingly or from sheer ignorance sweep Japanese World War II
atrocities under the carpet. There are millions and millions of us in Asia and
in Europe and all over the world who know very well what the Japanese did in
World War II. Remember, kudasai, that neither we nor our future
generations will ever forget.
AL
Canada (Apr 16, '04)
For some odd reason, Asia Times seems to have a very hard time finding the Hong
Kong General Chamber of Commerce. First we can't be found for interviews, and
now you can't seem to find anything about what we believe in. Try
www.chamber.org.hk and you'll find both our phone number and
statements about various policy issues facing Hong Kong. Among the latter will
be our April 2
submission to the Hong Kong SAR [Special Administrative Region]
government's constitutional development task force. That lengthy analysis
formed the basis for "Let's get the process right", an opinion piece by our
chairman that was printed in the South China Morning Post on March 29 (p A19).
We've also issued a
press release in response to the task force's report and the Hong
Kong SAR government's report to Beijing on the need to modify the ways in which
Hong Kong selects its leaders. None of this is secret, not to our thousands of
members nor to those journalists willing to do a bit of research. But I suppose
for a journal that criticizes reader Jay Liu [letter and editor's note, Apr 14]
for citing the setup by Reuters as if it was something that I actually said
isn't too surprising. After all, your unwarranted personal attacks, unjustified
character assassination and aspersions against my name and reputation were
nothing more than a setup, weren't they? If Asia Times honestly believes it
fairly represented my views, in the context of the questions I was asked by
Reuters, and did not deliberately attack my reputation, then state so and be
done with it. Keeping the article on your website because removing it might
stifle "lively debate about Hong Kong democracy" is a cop-out.
David O'Rear
Hong Kong (Apr 16, '04)
Asia Times Online honestly believes that its writer Gary LaMoshi in the Apr 8
article
Hong Kong politics: Business as usual fairly represented your
views as he understood them in the ongoing absence of further clarification by
yourself, and did not deliberately attack your reputation, in which we have no
interest. Our Apr 14 editor's note was obviously not a criticism of letter
writer Jay Liu but merely clarified that the citation chosen by Liu was not
your quote, and we repeated the actual Reuters quote for further clarity. We
have also given you ample opportunity to elaborate your position on Hong Kong
democracy and explain how the LaMoshi article misinterpreted it, but you
continue instead to insist (a la Beijing?) that our readers be deprived
of the opportunity of reading the article itself. That said, we appreciate your
providing the above links. As for the "lively debate", Gary LaMoshi responds
here. - ATol
Frank [letter, Apr 15] made some rather depressing comments. How can anyone say
that anyone else "has no right" to voice an opinion? This proves my letter of
Apr 15 correct. Criticism is seen as either a "foreigner who doesn't understand
and has no right to speak on the subject" or a Chinese who is unpatriotic and
selling his soul to the "white man". I fear that Frank is prejudiced against
Caucasians, although if not I happily welcome comments from him proving me
wrong.
Peter Mitchelmore
Calgary, Alberta (Apr 16, '04)
I really enjoyed your
Wanted: A new Saddam article [Apr 15]. I
appreciate your perspective and could almost literally not function without
knowing how people in Asia feel and what is really going on there. Alas, I live
in the United States ... and it is very hard to find non-biased news, or news
that doesn't just plain leave things out. The sin of omission is being
committed by all news sources here. I do want people who live in places being
most hurt by US or Israeli imperialism [to know] that not everyone in the US
condones these things. I do not and all of my friends do not, and I am in the
process of converting everyone here that I can. All they need to know is the
facts. That is the problem over here. Like I said, American news media leave
out essential parts of the stories. I swear that if Americans knew the whole
truth, then they would not hold the opinions that they do. And also, one must
realize that half of these people on the TV expressing opinions condoning
American imperialistic action are robots or are part of the neo-con agenda and
probably benefit from the actions being taken. I have to speak for some
Americans when I say that they do not know of the tragedies the American
military is pervading in their name. I do know of these things and I'm doing
what I can to help, that basically being spreading information. Winning the war
on information is the only thing I feel I can do at this point. Thank you for
capturing the truth more than any American news source could ever possibly do.
Lee Jarrod Evans
Jonesboro, Arkansas (Apr 15, '04)
[Re
Wanted: A new Saddam, Apr 15] "On the other hand, there are
alarming, persistent noises of the American military perceiving Iraqis - not to
mention Arabs as a whole - as untermenschen, sub-humans." As an
historian I could not help but draw the striking parallels between the Nazi
method of handling resistance and the new American model. I agree, this is not
a random response by the US. It is a calculated series of moves, rather like
the opening of a chess game. Startling statistics from a report by the Economic
Research Service, "China's Food and [Agriculture]: Issues for the 21st
Century":
Farm workers per 100 hectares: China, 310; USA, 2
Tractors per 100 hectares: China, 6; USA, 27
China, and most of the non-Western world, can feed itself with or without oil.
America cannot. That is about as fundamental as you can get. America has no
choice. It will use its economic and military might to secure the oil, whether
it is President Bush or President Kerry. The power of America is utterly
dependent on oil (to state the obvious). Shut off the oil, even for a few
weeks, and you shut off American power. I watch in awe and bemusement, at times
resigned, at others incandescent with rage. And as I watch the Muslim world's
response, I recall a solicitor I once knew who was fond of resolving issues by
saying "either shit or get off the pot". The strategy is simple - well, to my
mind, which often is referred to as simple by many people - shut off the oil.
The Muslim world has the key. Will it shit or will it get off the pot?
Graeme Mills (Apr 15, '04)
[Re
Cricket is cricket, but Kashmir is Kashmir, Apr 15.] It was
not clear from the article what [Sultan] Shahin's position is, but it is fair
to see the position taken by [Chandan] Mitra. Like everything else in India,
its policy on Pakistan is driven by the vision of its mainly north Indian
elite. Here you have a motley group of leftists (Praful Bidwai et al),
family-religion protagonists (Muslims), foolish sentimentalists (I K Gujral,
Kuldip Nayar), traders (Punjabi farmers) and the beneficiaries of the
corruption in the military-bureaucracy-politician complex. We therefore
vacillate between extreme hostility and brotherly love. The questions Mr Mitra
asks are very pertinent. Who needs open borders when we have enough problems
with drugs, terrorists and money laundering with closed borders? Talking about
trade is good, but Pakistan is a limited market. [Pakistani President General
Pervez] Musharraf and his ilk will continue to sip scotch whisky, drive German
limos and threaten India with Chinese nukes and North Korean rockets. The rest
of people who form the underclass won't be able to afford the goods India wants
to sell. If Musharraf was serious, he could offer, of course for a price,
transportation of goods to Afghanistan and Central Asia.
AP (Apr 15, '04)
From what [J] Zhang says at the beginning of his letter [Apr 14], a "patriotism
plus pro-democracy" stance is probably going on as we speak. However, the PRC
[People's Republic of China] government's insistence that party = state =
nation leads them to label any criticism "unpatriotic". His mindset does seem
to parallel this when he accuses many of these activists as being brainwashed
by the British. Furthermore, Michael Lou and David [both Apr 14] remind me of
the attitudes I heard in China: Praise by "outsiders" was highlighted, but when
criticism came along, it was "an internal affair, none of your business". I
recall also reading an article that [Asia Times Online writer] Gary LaMoshi has
Hong Kong citizenship anyway. Finally, to freedom of speech in the mainland.
David proved Antoaneta Bezlova's comments [Taiwan-China:
Love, suspicion, spy charges, Apr 9] to be accurate when he
contradicted himself and said, "So long as one doesn't directly confront the
state, there is no problem." I have lost count of the number of times during my
four years in China that lack of freedom of speech in public showed itself.
"Lower your voice," a friend once said to me on a train when I started talking
about the Three Gorges Dam. "If we were speaking in Chinese," he said, "I would
have forcibly changed the subject already." China is not a living hell or
dungeon, and the article didn't suggest that as far as I could see. It is still
a country lacking in comprehensive social justice and real freedom of speech in
a society where mistrust and infighting are the norms. These are not just my
own opinions, in case I'm told to "butt out", but also those of many Chinese
friends.
Peter Mitchelmore (Apr 15, '04)
Technically Gary LaMoshi has Hong Kong permanent residency, not citizenship. The
article you refer to is
Hong Kong bucks anti-immigration trend (Feb
21). - ATol
Richard Hanson shows his ignorance about Japanese law, history and the thoughts
of ordinary Japanese people in his article
Visits to war dead haunt Koizumi [Apr 8].
So-called "war criminals" executed by [Japan's] enemies are regarded as
patriots by Japanese. Just after the independence of 1949, the Japanese Diet
passed an act to declare that these patriots were victims of war and placed
them among other fallen for the country and enshrined them at Yasukuni. [The
judge who ruled] against the visit [to the shrine by Prime Minister Junichiro]
Koizumi was also ignorant of these historical facts, and his deed reflects his
own personal opinion. Silent and grassroots Japanese are now very angry at the
judge. Japanese [resistance] to Chinese intervention against Japan is becoming
very high. It is just before a blow-up. Not only about Yasukuni - Chinese are
increasingly neglecting the Japanese interest in the Ryuku archipelago by
illegally sending submarines and so-called research ships into Japanese waters.
Foreign journalists have not yet recognized it, but Japanese opinion
drastically changed last year. Japan took a first step toward [becoming a]
politically and militarily independent country, because politicians cannot
neglect their people's opinion - independent from the USA and counterattacking
Chinese insolence. The future of East Asia depends on China, especially her
attitude toward Japan. If not, the USA will take gain between the two. Note
that these two hold most of the US debt. [Hanson] should take a more global
aspect, and speak to ordinary Japanese and discard English sources.
Wada
Tokyo, Japan (Apr 15, '04)
I am wondering why YY of California [letter, Apr 14] is missing Hong Kong's
British master. There are only two possibilities. One is that YY is a white
man. He is missing the good old times of being the master of that colony. The
second possibility is that YY is from a former white man's colony. YY may [have
been] taught that he can get bones by wiggling his tail to his white masters.
Either way, he has no right talking about China's Hong Kong. If YY read some
history books, he would know that he can never be equal to his white masters by
wiggling his tail for a living. I hope those Asians who still dream about
tail-wiggling will soon understand that they can do great things by being
themselves. Asia will be a much better place without the slavery of the white
people.
Frank
Seattle, Washington (Apr 15, '04)
John Parker responds to readers
John Parker's Apr 3 book review of Jean-Francois Revel's Anti-Americanism
(In
defense of the Stars and Stripes) stimulated a number of
letters from Asia Times Online readers. To read Parker's response, please
click here. - ATol
(Apr 14, '04)
Thank you to ATol for publishing thoughtful articles with a unique perspective
such as Wendell Minnick's
The year to fear for Taiwan: 2006 [Apr
10]. It is refreshing to see some new thought on the issue instead of reading
hackneyed statements about China's intention and ability to launch a full-scale
invasion of Taiwan. However, Mr Minnick's article leaves me with three
questions that I hope he will answer: (1) Even if Taiwan's airfields are
damaged by surface-to-surface missiles, how will People's Liberation Army
troop-transport airplanes, which are large and slow, avoid both surface-to-air
missiles and even heavy machine-gun fire in sufficient numbers to build up an
effective troop force in Taipei? (2) In view of the difficulty of resupplying
or evacuating the islands of Jinmen and Matsu during a conflict, should Taiwan
demilitarize those islands now and rely on defenses based on Taiwan? (3) Should
Taiwan restructure its military to an active duty/reserve system a la Israel
or Switzerland in order to increase the number of men at arms in the event of
war?
Daniel McCarthy
Salt Lake City, Utah (Apr 14, '04)
I found Richard [Hanson]'s article [Hostage
ordeal prompts soul searching on Iraq, Apr 10] of great
interest, partly because of the ongoing crisis in Iraq and the political one
here in Japan. I think, as a Japanese citizen, I should stress the important
information regarding the Japanese media's insufficient information provision
over the hostage crisis. When the Japanese media (NHK and other TV [network]s)
run the news using the video clip handed in a CD-ROM, they intentionally
processed and cut the segment showing the three hostages threatened by guns and
knives ... With such limited and partial information, Japanese opinion is
somewhat controlled. However, thanks to information [such as] you provided, we
could triangulate the information from the Japanese media ... with those from
non-Japanese sources and articles ... Japanese, including myself, should be
more responsible for our decisions [to] send the Self-Defense Force to any
conflicted areas and countries. I now clearly recognize myself as a global
citizen living in Japan. I do not think the Japanese government decided to send
its troops from a global citizen's point of view; rather, it was decided by a
small group of powerful people in Nagata-cho, Kasumigaseki and Otemachi in
Tokyo whose priority remains in their vested interest - position, economy and
re-election. Action at the citizen level could change this decision-making
structure in Japan with diversified sources of information, though this
diversity does require readers [to make] more careful selections of the
information.
Takayoshi Kusago
Sapporo, Hokkaido, Japan (Apr 14, '04)
Another predictable rant from Pepe "Yanqui Go Home" Escobar ... [One
year on: From liberation to jihad,
Apr 9]. So what are the alternatives, Pepe? It's easy to criticize, hard to
come up with answers. How about an immediate US and coalition pullout [from
Iraq]? Your article implies that would be the best solution. The only reason
Saddam [Hussein]'s Sunnis weren't annihilating the Shi'ites before the war was
because of the US no-fly zone established after 1991. If the US troops left
now, the Shi'ites and Sunnis would be rapidly at each other's throats. As for
Pepe's condemnation, "anybody who has traveled in the Sunni triangle knows how
the US occupation is universally loathed", I view this an indication that the
US policy was appropriate. The Sunnis under Saddam and his fun-loving sons
ruled with utter cruelty. No wonder they resent being taken out of power and
resist the formation of a democracy where their power will not be absolute. As
for Muqtada [al-Sadr], the only reason he is free now and not languishing in
prison is because of the US liberation. His Islamic fascism needs to fought in
Iraq as in Spain as in Paris as in Bali as in East Timor as in New York. As for
the Kurds? Oh, Pepe forgot to mention them.
Ken Clay, MD (Apr 14, '04)
In regards to
One year on: From liberation to jihad [Apr 9] by Pepe
Escobar: We fought against Saddam Hussein to free the Iraqi people, including
Sunni and Shi'ite people, from a dictatorship ruled by fear. Coalition forces
fought without question, because people like Grand Ayatollah Mohammed al-Sadr
were murdered/martyred. Now his son hates us, now we are killing the freed Iraq
people. Over 400 people dead in the last few days alone. This is pure 100
percent insanity.
James Retta (Apr 14, '04)
Re When
fear turns to anger by Nir Rosen [Apr 9]. This ... is an
article about hate [between] two religious groups in Iraq. My complaint has
nothing to do with Iraq but rather with the incredibly uneducated and
irresponsible unrelated statement of the so-called journalist Nir Rosen. He
states: "They hate each other. Sunnis view Shi'ites the way that many white
South Africans viewed blacks, and now feel disenfranchised, seeing the
'barbaric heathens' threatening to rule their country." How dare you! How dare
Nir Rosen write that lie and how dare you (as an editor) let him get away with
it. I am a white South African. I grew up in South Africa through the '80s [at
the] pinnacle of apartheid. I don't hate blacks or never did. Neither did my
family. Neither did my friends' families. What about the soldiers that killed?
Many thousands of young South African boys did not hate black people, yet were
forced by government conscription to do armed patrols of various townships
throughout South Africa - consequently being forced to defend themselves when
they came under attack. That's just one small example. How can you compare the
hate of two religious factions that murder each other on a daily basis because
they believe their religion deems it fit to do so, to that of two different
racial groups being puppeteered by an archaic and delusional government? None
of my friends feel hate towards black people, I don't even know of anyone that
hates (or should I put "hate" in italics like Nir Rosen did?) black people. I
do know people that feel threatened or disfranchised because of the current
affirmative-action policies, however - just to let you know I'm not entirely
blind to the feelings of other fellow countrymen. I'm not saying people that
hate don't exist in South Africa - as there are always right-wing maniacs in
every country - I'm just saying that by making an idiotic sweeping statement
like your reporter did, he's perpetuating a very old and very untrue myth of an
incredibly beautiful country that is in fact filled with hope and positiveness.
Even in South Africa's "bad old days" the number of whites that "hated" blacks
was minimal. Please try to understand this. Hate is perpetuated by ignorance.
Don't spread ignorance. It's your duty as a newspaper editor. I will be
forwarding this message (along with the link to the article) to the two leading
(and opposing) political parties in South Africa as well as Mr Nelson Mandela's
contact liaison with the hopes that they get to see this lie being perpetuated
and in turn write to you. I do expect a full apology from yourself as editor
and the writer of that article to be posted on your website.
Brindley Uytenbogaardt
Cape Town, South Africa (Apr 14, '04)
Nir Rosen's remark was in no way "sweeping" and allowed for the reality that not
all whites hated blacks during South Africa's "bad old days", which lasted more
than four decades. - ATol
[Re Taiwan-China:
Love, suspicion, spy charges, Apr 9.] "As all four loudly
list their woes and argue their demands in a packed coffee shop in downtown
Taipei - observed but undisturbed by curious onlookers - they are oblivious to
at least one right they have gained by coming to Taiwan: the freedom to speak
out freely, even against the government." Well, thanks to [Inter Press Service
correspondent Antoaneta] Bezlova's wonderfully "insightful" article, we are now
once again given the impression that China is indeed a dungeon or a living
hell. Just for your information, the people of the mainland can and do
criticize their government, many times out in the open like the four mainland
women were doing at the coffee shop. So long as one doesn't directly confront
the state, there is no problem. What do you think disgruntled peasants and
laid-off workers do whenever they are angry at their plight? Do you really
think the Chinese government is so omnipotent as to throw anyone who spoke out
against it at private meetings in jail? To cheapen an otherwise good article on
the sad fate of mainland wives in Taiwan with a few badly taken pot-shots at
the government of China ruined it all for me.
David (Apr 14, '04)
All I can say to Gary LaMoshi's piece on China's policy in Hong Kong [Hong
Kong politics: Business as usual, Apr 8] is, "Where have you
been when the British colonial government was in Hong Kong?" Why is Mr LaMoshi
so concerned for Hong Kong's supposed "democratic" future now that it has
returned to China? Why are he and others so blase about "democracy" under
British colonial (and not particularly democratic) rule? It is obvious to me
that the naysayers are fearful of China's rise, and have a double standard
between white dictatorship and Chinese dictatorship. Hong Kong is China's
internal affair, and China will do what it wishes in accordance with China's
and Hong Kong's best interests in mind. There is no need for you to worry, Mr
LaMoshi, so butt out.
Michael Lou
Milton, Massachusetts (Apr 14, '04)
Referring to the letter of G Travan of California (Apr 9) regarding Hong Kong,
I must say that he/she is comparing apples to pears. Hong Kong under British
rule was very different from Hong Kong under Chinese rule, for the simple fact
that the colonial government practiced common law, whereas the present Chinese
regime practices communism. Yes, many people considered Hong Kong as a stepping
stone to somewhere else and had left for other destinations even under the
British rule. But many, many more had chosen to leave in the years leading up
to the 1997 takeover. Obviously, between the two evils - colonialism and
communism - the Hong Kongites considered the former as the lesser of the two.
It seems that whatever little freedom that the Hong Kongites enjoyed under
colonialism are quickly disappearing altogether.
YY
California (Apr 14, '04)
I totally support the views of G Travan [letter, Apr 9] and David O'Rear [Apr
8]. There are people in Hong Kong like Szeto Wah and Martin Lee who bowed to
their British masters before 1997 and started bad-mouthing China on every issue
since then. While economic development is the pressing paramount priority,
China has to slowly and painstakingly find its own democratic way given its own
culture and long history, amidst intense international competition and
pressure. It is heartening, though, to see that those noises made will not lead
anywhere.
S P Li (Apr 14, '04)
G Travan is right in his letter [Apr 9]. Why is pro-democracy automatically
anti-China in Hong Kong? Why can't it be pro-China and pro-democracy? The best
way for Hong Kong to achieve greater democracy is to take the distrust away by
being more patriotic. Now many Chinese think the Hong Kong Democrats will sell
Hong Kong out to foreign powers. They should be more patriotic, while at the
same time asking for more democracy. With Martin Lee visiting the US and
holding meetings with staunch anti-China politicians, I support the central
leadership in controlling the pace and way of development in Hong Kong.
Currently, it has kept its promise of keeping Hong Kong's special status
unchanged for 50 years. If those democracy activists were silent during the
colonial British days, why are they screaming now? These people have been
brainwashed by their old colonial masters and are only serving their interests,
not the interest of Hong Kong nor our country China. Please stop kowtowing to
them.
J Zhang
The Netherlands (Apr 14, '04)
G Travan's letter (Apr 9) made so much more sense than Gary LaMoshi's unfounded
assertions while responding to a letter from David O'Rear (Apr 8) that O'Rear,
chief economist of the Hong Kong General Chamber of Commerce, meant to say
"what Beijing did was okay and not a big deal" when he was actually quoted as
saying "Despite the protests from democrats, the review of the Basic Law made
hardly a ripple in Hong Kong's financial markets. Investors in China shares
ignored the news entirely." How can a candid reflection of facts from financial
markets be distorted so much so as to prop up a straw man making a sweeping
political judgment that LaMoshi was so ready to knock down? I will not be
surprised if LaMoshi truly believes that it is appropriate for a reporter to
distort the truth. How can [Daniel] McCarthy (letter, Apr 9) claim to defend
democracy and then go on himself to demand O'Rear to "remain silent" or "admit
he acts as a tool of Beijing" in one breath? Is O'Rear a slave obligated to
follow Master McCarthy's dictate now? If McCarthy had bothered to confirm with
reality, freedom of speech in Hong Kong was so well protected that local
business leaders were begging the government's own radio station to tone down
its Beijing-bashing. How can McCarthy brand O'Rear's letter of indignation a
"hysterical response" and then go on himself to designate O'Rear as having "a
guilty conscience", "collaborat[ing] with those who have signed the death
certificate for both Hong Kong's democratic development and its freedom", being
"a fawning lackey of the existing power structure" and "lady-in-waiting for the
despots" in one short letter of a mere 150 words? Where is the logic when
McCarthy laments that O'Rear with just one letter "doth protest too much" while
the activists in Hong Kong protest on and on without hearing one peep from
McCarthy? Give me a break!
Jay Liu
USA (Apr 14, '04)
What you cite as David O'Rear's quote was in fact only the setup by Reuters, as
provided by Mr O'Rear in his letter to put his own quote in context. O'Rear's
actual quote in the Reuters article was: "We have more democracy than most
other Asian countries ... Plus many overseas companies are very active
throughout the region." - ATol
If you [Gary LaMoshi;
Hong Kong politics: Business as usual, Apr 8] do not
understand what I meant by "We [Hong Kong] have more democracy than most other
Asian countries," perhaps it is because you never asked me that or any other
question. You did not interview me for this article, but merely took a single
phrase - out of context - from a Reuters report and twisted it to fit your own
prejudices. You do not even know what question I was asked that prompted me to
make that statement to Reuters. I did not say "what Beijing did was okay and
not a big deal", nor did I say anything that might even remotely be construed
to mean such a thing. Moreover, your vicious allegation that I deserve to be
singled out for "special recognition for selling out freedom" cannot in any way
be considered a fair interpretation of my statement. It is not my
responsibility to provide you with sound bites to support your preconceived
notions. Rather, it is your responsibility as a journalist to accurately
reflect statements made to you, or to accurately reflect and cite the source
of statements you have taken from the honest work of other journalists. I am
still waiting for the apology, and for the offending article to be removed from
this website.
David O'Rear Chief Economist
Hong Kong General Chamber of Commerce
Hong Kong (Apr 14, '04)
Rather than removing the Gary LaMoshi article and thereby stifling the lively
debate about Hong Kong democracy on this page, perhaps you should simply tell
Asia Times Online readers what you and the Hong Kong General Chamber of
Commerce actually believe. Are you in favor of more democracy in Hong Kong, or
less? Do you believe that a free and autonomous Hong Kong is better for
business, and for Hong Kong residents, than one ruled with an iron fist from
Beijing or do you not? - ATol
[W Joseph] Stroupe's analysis [US
complicit in its own decline, Mar 31] was super. For the
accurate, up-to-date info I prefer Asia Times Online. [Henry
C K] Liu, [Jim] Lobe, [Richard]
Hanson and others are the best! Seems like
the truth of it all originates with you, and days or weeks later it dribbles
down to other news organizations.
John Anderson (Apr 14, '04)
Your reporting is so informative that I keep you on my desktop to check with,
but your so obvious anti-Americanism is such a sad undercutting to your work.
Paul Vereshack (Apr 14, '04)
Re Pepe Escobar's statement related to the recent conflict in Fallujah: "The
mosque itself was not hit - but dozens of people were" [One
year on: From liberation to jihad, Apr 9]. Pepe forgot to mention
that those "dozens of people" were firing AK-47s and RPGs [rocket-propelled
grenades] at the US troops outside of the mosque. I guess Pepe didn't realize
that his wording might leave someone with the impression that these were pious
Muslims at afternoon prayer who were viciously assaulted by bloodthirsty US
killers. Just a slip of the pen, right Pepe?
Mike Callahan
Dallas, Texas (Apr 9, '04)
One
year on: From liberation to jihad [Apr 9] by Pepe Escobar is the
most comprehensive, intelligent and realistic summary of the realities of the
US military occupation of Iraq. Pepe Escobar surpassed even himself and
thousands of "sound bites" purportedly reporting facts of the Iraqi uprising
against the foreign military occupiers. This article should be compulsory
reading for everyone and especially for the duped and blinded American public.
Thank you, Pepe Escobar, for calling a spade a spade and for showing up the
Washington/Pentagon neo-con propaganda for what it is: incessant lies.
Eve Metz
Melbourne, Australia (Apr 9, '04)
[Re]
One year on: From liberation to jihad [Apr 9]. So, is this a
national war of liberation? A war to rid Iraq of an occupying power? Or is it a
religious war with far wider implications? Essentially the world is dividing
between fundamental religious values, values of the spirit, of humanity and a
secular materialistic fetish of greed. As I understand it, jihad means
"struggle". At its foundation this is a struggle between two great forces which
shape mankind's destiny. The force of the spirit and the force of the material
world. Neither, I would suggest, are "right" at the extreme. The USA will win,
on a tactical level, a "war" of national liberation. It cannot win a national
"struggle" based on fundamentally opposing values. The potential, or should I
say the reality, of this spilling out to become a global "struggle" is truly
frightening. If this is to be mankind's destiny the "struggle" will not be
resolved by conflict, lack of understanding and hatred. It will be finally won
- after much hurt and suffering - by tolerance and understanding; by sharing,
not exploitation. I fear I have only stated the obvious.
Graeme Mills
Australia (Apr 9, '04)
In
From nation-building to religion-building [Apr 9], Jim Lobe has made a
mistake presenting in good light Islamist organizations that in fact are
shadowy and have proven records of anti-American, anti-moderation, Wahhabist
positions. It's the norm in democratic polities for oppositions to criticize
ruling parties and vice versa, and modern political criticism, of course,
entails nothing short of nasty mudslinging and "fact fudging", so what Mr Lobe
has reached for in criticizing Daniel Pipes is understood. Yet, as a Muslim, I
am not humored that he is complicit in the same "religion-building" he accuses
Mr Pipes of. CAIR [Council on American-Islamic Relations], ISNA [Islamic
Society of North America] and ICNA [Islamic Circle of North America] employ
pollsters to prove their legitimacy because they don't have authentic religious
authority. In other words, their hegemonic zeal to eliminate plurality in
Muslim America, coupled with an obsession to wield major influence on American
foreign policy, has landed them in "Islamism" and alienated them from Islam.
Their inspiration comes more from [Georg Wilhelm Friedrich] Hegel and [Karl]
Marx than Prophet Mohammed (peace and blessings upon him), and their shameless
apologetics fool only those unfamiliar with the history and methodology of
Wahhabism and neo-Wahhabism (aka Salafism), which I suspect includes Mr Lobe.
Traditional Islamic law does not recognize any authority - religious,
political, social, intellectual or otherwise - unless the one claiming power
has gone through a due process ... Saying "we are non-sectarian" may be
politically expedient, but it immediately raises the question about who
authorized such a religiously untenable stand. CAIR may try "to represent the
views of all US Muslims", but this is its private, foreign-influenced ambition,
because the due process that would validate undertaking such a gargantuan task
is simply outside the intentions of our self-appointed saviors. Traditional
Islamic law - that is, Sunni Law as practiced by 85-90 percent of Muslims
worldwide for the last 14 centuries - has not permitted such adventurism, and
these groups act arbitrarily out of primal fears and misplaced priorities. Even
to its foes, Islam is a great world religion that must be taken seriously if
its practitioners are to live in peace and at peace with the rest of humanity.
What I've explained here is hardly even the tip of the iceberg. Suffice it to
say that Mr Lobe is, I assume unwittingly, regurgitating propaganda material;
that too much is wrong with organizations that deceive gullible Muslims and tug
at their heartstrings to further dubious, Machiavellian agendas; that spiritual
mediocrity, and there's no shorter way to that than to follow what our
"representatives" propose, is to be shunned, not celebrated.
Bilal Saqib
Houston, Texas (Apr 9, '04)
It seems quite strange to me that Gary LaMoshi so viciously decries China's
assertion of control over Hong Kong [Hong
Kong politics: Business as usual, Apr 8]. I wonder how incensed he was
when Hong Kong's overseers were British bureaucrats who didn't even speak
Chinese. I totally support the democratization of China, and the maintenance of
Hong Kong's special status. But democratic rule in Hong Kong was instituted by
the British in the run-up to the handover as a sort of poke in the eye to
China. If the British had granted democratic rights to Hong Kong residents
earlier, or even allowed Hong Kong residents anything more than second-class
citizenship in their defunct empire, their democratic institutions would have
far more legitimacy. People involved in the democracy movement in Hong Kong
often seem more interested in bashing China than securing democracy. This is
plainly evidenced by the fact that these people were silent during British
rule, when Hong Kong had no local rights, and was ruled by a foreigner
dispatched from London. Prominent democracy "activists" like Martin Lee have
close ties to anti-China lawmakers in the US, and often attack Beijing in the
foreign press, which has branded the entire democracy movement in Hong Kong as
a fifth pillar for American interests. LaMoshi, as a self-claimed member of the
"people of Hong Kong", displays absolutely no sympathy or concern for his
brethren in China. He seems happy to spit on Beijing and demand full autonomy
for Hong Kong. I cannot but feel that this is based on a sick colonial
mentality that sees subjugation at the hands of the British as fine, but the
same treatment at the hand of one's own countrymen as intolerable ... In my
view, the democracy movement in Hong Kong can only become relevant by accepting
that Hong Kong is part of China, abandoning this colonial-subject mentality,
and directing its efforts not to secure Hong Kong's parochial rights, but to
promote humanism and respect for individual rights throughout China.
G Travan
California (Apr 9, '04)
David O'Rear's hysterical response [letter,
Apr 8] to Gary LaMoshi's witty and insightful analysis of Hong Kong's political
situation [Hong Kong politics: Business as usual, Apr 8] belies a guilty
conscience as Mr O'Rear collaborates with those who have signed the death
certificate for both Hong Kong's democratic development and its freedom. Only a
fawning lackey of the existing power structure could consider a legislature in
which two-thirds of the members are directly or indirectly appointed by a
communist government to be democratic in any way, shape or form. Even
Singapore's window-dressing democracy is more convincing than the sham that
Beijing has imposed on Hong Kong. Mr O'Rear would be better off to either admit
he acts as a tool of Beijing's out of self-interest or to remain silent. By
crying out in shrill fury to legitimate commentary, Mr O'Rear merely highlights
his position as lady-in-waiting for the despots. He doth protest too much.
Daniel McCarthy
Salt Lake City, Utah (Apr 9, '04)
In regard to the article on April 7 [Sri
Lanka's bad moon keeps rising] by Sudha Ramachandran on the Sri Lankan
elections, I beg to differ on the characterization of the JVP [Janata Vimukti
Peramuna] as "anti-Tamil". They are Sinhala nationalist but they are also very
much a socialist organization with a commitment to traditional socialist ideals
of equality. It is a curious mix indeed but calling them anti-Tamil is a
falsification. They have a Tamil-language newspaper as well as Tamil members,
which is far more than could be said for the LTTE [Liberation Tigers of Tamil
Eelam], which is purely a sectarian organization which has targeted innocent
Sinhalese workers and farmers in its bombing campaigns in the past. The JVP in
its commitment to maintain the unity of Sri Lanka may be construed in some
quarters as being unsympathetic to the plight of the Tamil people, but that is
if we equate sympathy for the Tamil cause with support for the LTTE and de
facto support for separatism. The JVP, as far as I have seen, are committed to
equality of all ethnicities and religions within a unitary socialist state.
Manjula Wijerama (Apr 9, '04)
Your reader [Hugh J] Pavletich, suitably overawed by the review of the book [Anti-Americanism],
In defense of the Stars and Stripes [Apr 3], seeks now to overawe others
by applauding the USA "as the beacon of liberty ... as the most successful
nation on the planet" (letter posted Apr 8) and asks rhetorically: "Where would
the world be if the United States had not been around for the past 200 years?"
Well, I can tell him:
There would not have been the attempted genocidal and ethnic cleansing of the
[native American] tribes who, starting from a population numbering some
millions, have been reduced to mere hundreds living mostly in poverty and in
sickness in the badlands of the USA.
The lynching and murder of thousands of [blacks] who were utterly innocent
(estimated by some at 80,000) would never have occurred.
There would have been no American-Spanish war, which was fought principally for
conquest of Spanish colonial territory.
There would not have been an Anglo-Saxon hegemony over the rich [Middle] and
Far Eastern territories beginning about one and a half centuries ago and
continuing even until today.
Both World Wars l and ll, instigated by the greed of international monetarists
seeking irreversible control of the economic engines of the world (whose
institutions are symbolized within the USA), would in all probability never
have been fought ...
The racist, terrorist state of Israel, as it is today, would never have come
into existence.
There would have been no Arab hostilities vis-a-vis the Israelis, nor would
Islam as a religion feel itself threatened by the Judeo-Anglo-Saxon-Christian
people throughout the world ...
Might would never have been countenanced as if it had right always on its side;
and, so on and on the list goes ...
The USA is in international terms a terrorist state, saved from indictment only
by the military might it wields. I speak as a lawyer ... Empires fall and
perish; so will the USA, and when the history of its nefarious international
conduct comes to be written it will be a sad book indeed to read. The lies, the
subterfuges, the conspiracies, the greed of moneyed men in power yet seeking
more wealth, the innumerable violent, illegal acts against millions of innocent
peoples will all be revealed. The shame of this nation, as a pariah state, will
be indelible.
AP
United Kingdom (Apr 9, '04)
Junichiro Koizumi, the prime minister of Japan, has displayed less intelligence
than a village idiot in following our own imbecile [President George W] Bush
into the terrible swamp of Iraq. Any child could have told him that his
supremely foolish actions would result in horrendous consequences for Japan.
Koizumi ought to do at least three things: 1) Immediately withdraw all Japanese
troops from Iraq, 2) stop acting like Bush's cocker spaniel (as Professor
Chalmers Johnson has correctly dubbed him), and 3) quit his visits to Yasukuni
Shrine, that sad monument to chauvinism and militarism.
Dr Zeljko Cipris, Assistant Professor of Japanese
University of the Pacific
Stockton, California (Apr 9, '04)
Re Hong
Kong politics: Business as usual by Gary LaMoshi (Apr 8). I
am appalled at the unwarranted personal attack on me contained in this article,
and demand an immediate retraction. I insist on a public apology for this
totally unjustified character assassination, and removal of the story
from your website and archives. By singling me out for "special recognition for
selling out freedom" because of my statement on the level of democracy in Hong
Kong vis-a-vis that of other places in Asia you have cast aspersions on my good
name and tarnished my reputation. The malicious statement that my nationality
is in any way related to my professional analysis is utterly false and
detrimental to my long-standing reputation for objectivity. I stand by my
statement, to a Reuters reporter (reproduced below, and accurately reported in
other publications), that Hong Kong has more democracy than most Asian
countries. To twist this simple statement of fact - which you do nothing to
either refute or disprove - into the pretzel-shaped misrepresentation you
published is appalling. If you wish to believe the local business community
"relies on the absence of democracy, not the absence of politics, to prosper",
that is your right. However, you have no right to attribute your own prejudices
to anyone else, and certainly not to me. I did not say that and resent the
implication that I support such a position. Disciplinary action against the
author of this infamous article would not be out of line, but that is your
prerogative, not mine. The
Reuters quote: "Despite the protests from
democrats, the review of the Basic Law made hardly a ripple in Hong Kong's
financial markets. Investors in China shares ignored the news entirely. 'We
have more democracy than most other Asian countries,' said David O'Rear, chief
economist at the Hong Kong Chamber of Commerce. 'Plus many overseas companies
are very active throughout the region'."
David O'Rear
Chief Economist
Hong Kong General Chamber of Commerce
Hong Kong (Apr 8, '04)
If your meaning was that what Beijing did was okay and not a big deal, then the
meaning of what you said has not been twisted at all. If you were saying
something different, then tell me what it was, and I and ATol will apologize.
Regrets if we offended. - Gary LaMoshi
In the article
Hong Kong politics: Business as usual [Apr 8], author Gary
LaMoshi seems to imply that if Beijing continues to deny Hong Kongers the right
of democratic development, then Hong Kongers may choose to work for political
change from outside the system. But working outside the political system will
be seen by Beijing as sedition, or at least counter-revolutionary, and would
lead to another round of red terror, which seems to be cyclical in China (1950,
1957, 1966, 1979, 1989, 1999, etc). Perhaps we will see Martin Lee on
television wearing a dunce cap with frothy-mouthed high-school girls (or at
least Jay Liu) shouting the Three Represents at him. Undoubtedly a new red
terror would also be unleashed if Taiwan were to form any kind of political
integration with China, as can be predicted from Beijing's calling [Vice
President] Annette Lu "the scum of the nation". Mr LaMoshi commented that
Beijing's hopes for return of Taiwan may have been dampened, leading to lack of
restraint on Hong Kong. If accurate, then it may mean either that Beijing has
given up all hope of making progress with Taiwan, or that Beijing has already
chosen the path of war and the only uncertainty is the date for commencement of
hostilities. With Hong Kong firmly under its dictatorial thumb, Beijing may
choose to gamble it all in a foolish military adventure that would only bring
tragedy to all involved.
Daniel McCarthy
Salt Lake City, Utah (Apr 8, '04)
[Re Hong
Kong politics: Business as usual, Apr 8.] Chinese,
especially richer [ones], are more inclined to a stable society, whether it is
an authoritarian country or totalitarian one, than a democratic society, where
the debate and clashes of different people dominating the press, justice and
freedom are the most important focus in civilized society. Chinese society, as
its history demonstrated, is actually not concerned about social justice and
people's freedom. They are more concerned about their wealth and heritage. And
conflict of interest is nonsense [in the thinking] of powerful Chinese. Sadly,
this could explain why China has a long history but is still a nation
struggling toward Dragon status. Dragon, as its name [suggests], is an
illusion. Hong Kong tycoons, like its people, like business as usual,
regardless whether the base is solid or not. One solution is Taiwan, where
people may get rid of Chinese inferior nature. Let's see how Chinese people
will stand [in the future].
Richard Jiang (Apr 8, '04)
Re
India's growth beats China's ... or does it? [Apr 7].
[Indrajit] Basu seems to ask the right questions with a certain dose of
skepticism [about] the data dished out by a government-controlled organization
like any good journalist should do. However, he, like many of his
convent-educated pseudo-secular brethren, is stuck in the rut of the Nehruvian
socialist model. If for a moment he removed his blinders, he would see what
Mother Nature's bounty and the genius of Indian farmer can do. Last time I
checked, India had a bumper harvest of oilseeds, corn, milk, fruit and
vegetables besides commodity crops like wheat and rice without [its farmers]
knowing how to speak English, going to St Xavier's School or getting an H1
visa. Fiscal and regulatory policies are allowing farmers to export excess
produce in the world market. These policies, it seems, are creating industrial
growth in terms of trucks and farm equipment, consumer goods because of higher
disposable incomes, infrastructure growth because of demand of transport and
storage, and finally services due to global trading houses engaged in
agricultural business. Why, I may ask, is this growth not real? Why is the BJP
[Bharatiya Janata Party] to be blamed for slow economic growth due to a bad
monsoon but not responsible for the fast pace during a good monsoon? Why is
agriculture outside the state-mandated wheat-rice procurement considered
unsustainable? And finally back to the favorite China question, why is a
[dollar's worth] of export like cheap toys or garments from a Han Chinese body
shop worth more than a dollar's worth of groundnuts or milk from a rustic
Indian village? Of course, when the powers that matter in New Delhi, Lucknow,
Patna and Kolkata finally figure this out, India will be well on its way to the
prosperity it lost with the advent of Muslim, British and Nehru rule.
Ashesh Parikh (Apr 8, '04)
Herodotus famously termed Arabs "lizard eaters", even though history doesn't
document any reptile species ever being part of the culinary habits of the
desert dwellers. But such are the fruits good writers bestow on their
readership when asserting an idea with potent symbols. Reading John Parker's
essay [Apr 3] was a funny experience along the same lines and, yes, many of his
points are valid no matter what we may think of his colorful language. Mr
Parker employs sarcasm rolled in acid tortillas to drive home the absurdity of
singling out America as the great global devil, as if every other nation on
Earth were populated entirely by self-negating saints. But we live in a world
where extremism is the norm, moderation is a kind of immorality, and nobility
of character is a downright endangered species. Sadly, the situation is bound
to get much worse. In fact, I hadn't even read
In defense of the Stars and Stripes until
I saw that at least two individuals with Muslim namesakes, both with addresses
in the West, had criticized the essay and its author to merely fulfill a
tit-for-tat, which, of course, is a liberty free citizens are allowed to enjoy
(as the Muslim critics pointed out dutifully), but which unfortunately does no
service to a meaningful dialogue. I'm afraid John Parker falls under the same
indictment. Defending America and her ideals can be a sensible cause; the whole
undertaking should exude civility, however, and
Spengler in my opinion does an admirable
job of abiding by this unspoken rule. Claiming to symbolize all that is good
and great about the human creature and then using all that is vile and
degenerate to beat this claim into our brains sort of plants doubts about the
initial claim, doesn't it? And as for us Arabs and/or Muslims, this is exactly
the case against those of us who deliciously decry America in so many rallies
and hateful slogans, yet don't take pause to ponder that the presence of Islam
in one's heart is claimed - in no less than the Koran itself - to bring, no
matter what condition may befall the believers, restful joy and contemplative
speech, the very antonyms of the inferiority complex our secular classes dabble
in and rancorous slurs our activists issue at the slightest provocation.
Bilal Saqib
Houston, Texas (Apr 8, '04)
John Parker must be congratulated for his brilliant review of the book by
[Jean-Francois] Revel Anti-Americanism [In
defense of the Stars and Stripes, Apr 3]. This book is an
obvious "must read" for all fair-minded people. The reality is that "the beacon
of liberty", the United States of America, is the most successful nation on the
planet and we all owe it a great debt of gratitude. One simple question: Where
would the world be today if the United States had not been around for the past
200 years? Most of us on the planet would be living under some oppressive
totalitarian regime, in great poverty. Something like I imagine, the "happy
Russians". That's if we were lucky enough to be still living. Thank you,
America.
Hugh J Pavletich
Christchurch, New Zealand (Apr 8, '04)
I hope John Parker feels a little better after getting all that phlegm off his
chest [In
defense of the Stars and Stripes, Apr 3]. I agree with his
general sentiments if not some of the detail. He mistakes the views of a small
minority as representative of the opinion of millions. Despite some very badly
managed foreign policies by the US, there is general support in Europe for
eliminating rogue nations that provide safe havens for terrorists. We suffered
for years in Britain (3,000 deaths, bombings, restricted liberties, no litter
bins etc) from a tendency for the US to turn a blind eye to the activities of
IRA [Irish Republican Army] supporters on their territory but we were patient,
and post-September 11 [2001] that safe haven has at last disappeared. In some
ways we are pleased to keep our heads down in the UK and let the US take the
flak that we used to get as the "imperialists". There is a saying, "The dog
barks but the caravan moves on." The world agenda for progress, rights,
democracy etc is driven by a transnational alliance whose inspiration is the
North European reformation and enlightenment but whose motor is now the
globalization of the world economy formerly led by the UK but now by the US.
That is not going to change. What we do need to address is transnational
democratic accountability. The US president has a major influence on my life
but I have even less means of influencing his actions than I have of
influencing [British Prime Minister] Tony Blair. It is the unilateralist
tendency of the US in foreign policy that I find worrying and that even acting
as the right flank of the US military seems to win us in Britain little say in
the direction of that policy.
Dr Toby Mottram
Bedford, England (Apr 8, '04)
Frank from Seattle (letters section)should realize why his pipsqueak potshots
at India have not so much as elicited a response thus far. India, he threatens,
must negotiate more carefully on the border question because it has more
citizens living close by than does China (in occupied Tibet). On economic
growth, he has already decided who the "loser" is. In any case, he may relieve
himself of his anxiety about the veracity of Indian statistical information
now, because several international agencies are coming in to take a look for
themselves in what is an open society. Here's one report -
S&P to take a closer look at India. I
would also like to add to what Dev had to say in his letter [Apr 5] about the
slant in Asia Times Online's reportage on India. You have replied to an
impertinent letter with an equally cocky reply, but readers deserve a fair
acknowledgement of any stance ATol takes. It is quite clear that the
journalists here who write about India are deeply anti-BJP [Bharatiya Janata
Party] and heavily biased towards the left of the Indian political spectrum.
Tangential references to unrelated negative issues like poverty in articles
about space programs or international energy acquisition ventures by the Indian
government show the utter lack of logic and a sense of "incommensurables" when
talking about issues. The blatant campaigning for retards like Rahul Gandhi is
another case in point. There is nothing wrong if this is a conscious
ideological choice of Asia Times, but an honest acknowledgement of the same
would let non-Indian readers know more about the news they get through this
publication.
Carl (Apr 8, '04)
We were about to respond with a "fair acknowledgement" as you requested, until
we came to the "retards like Rahul Gandhi" part of your letter. - ATol
I guess I should not be surprised that some readers just don't get what I am
actually trying to say in my letters. Presumptuousness and condescension
clearly shown in Richard Mecchi's letters (Apr 5 and 7) are also evident from
another letter by our esteemed Dr Tzu-Hsiu Tseng (Apr 7). Were they really
reading as a reader is supposed to? After I was accused by Mecchi without any
basis of branding Taiwanese as "blithering idiots" and "too dim-witted" and
also disrespecting the island's disabled first lady, I believe I was entitled
to ask a simple rhetorical question about what Mecchi would say if one were to
accuse him of something outrageous with no factual foundation. As to Chen
[Shui-bian]'s wound that was real and consistent with a gunshot, the US experts
(one of them happens to be a JFK-conspiracy supporter) indicated nothing more
than the obvious because of their short stay on the island with rather limited
time to examine all possible evidences available. All I was trying to say is
that no possibilities, an elaborate hoax included, should be ruled out since
all the facts are yet to be revealed, given especially the fact that similar
experiences on an election eve 18 years ago potentially pointed to a behavioral
pattern. Since when [does] playing a devil's advocate becomes being the devil
itself? A theory like the JFK [US president John F Kennedy assassination]
conspiracy will not be accepted by most because mountains of evidence are
available for all to judge on their own. In the case of Chen's mysterious
shooting on March 19, the jury is still out.
Jay Liu
USA (Apr 8, '04)
Your reporting regarding the Iraq conflict is biased and wrong.
dd (Apr 8, '04)
Would you care to elaborate? - ATol
Indrajit Basu (India's
growth beats China's ... or does it? [Apr 7]) is claiming
China's GDP [gross domestic product] growth figures are inaccurate. I totally
agree with that. China is a very large country. Computer point-of-sales systems
are not widely used. People do not always report their sales numbers.
Government is doing a lot of guessing. However, China is also under extreme
pressure from other countries to increase its currency value by 40 percent. Why
does China want to overestimate its GDP growth under such pressure? [On the
other hand], India is in great need to boost its national image. India has
every reason to overestimate its GDP growth. However, the China-India
comparison contributes nothing positive. I suggest India writers stop comparing
China and India. I have not read about any Chinese writer [who] does this kind
of useless China-India comparison. Talk is cheap. Numbers cannot be traded for
food or shelter. Most important is to improve the living standards of our
people. Comparison will only hurt feelings of the loser.
Frank
Seattle, Washington (Apr 7, '04)
I refer to the article
Test of American patience [Apr 7] by Ehsan
Ahrari. It is preposterous to think that the American public has any influence
on the workings of the American ruling elites who have fomented wars during the
last 100 years. The ruling circles that decide to make war do not do this
haphazardly or by accident. Indeed, the US can only survive if it makes war.
Nearly all Americans understand this and know that their bread and butter or
their SUVs [sport-utility vehicles] come from making war against defenseless
countries of the South. In Iraq America is employing the most brutal methods of
war, and by design has programmed its soldiers to be brutal and Rambo-like. The
American public elects its leaders solely on the basis of their toughness
towards defenseless Third World countries. The media will never allow the truth
of the cost of the war in money and man to be told the public and all
precautions have been taken to ensure that no true costs of war are allowed to
be published. The Patriot Act and other laws instituted post-September 11
[2001] were thought out carefully just for the purpose keeping the American
public solidly behind the war, no matter the cost.
Vince Costa
South Africa (Apr 7, '04)
War is brutal by nature, but our correspondents in Iraq have found little or no
evidence that US troops there are any more "Rambo-like" than any other young
soldiers would be in such a dangerous and difficult situation. For a close-up
look at a US regiment's activities in Iraq, see Nir Rosen's series
Every Time the Wind Blows (Oct '03). - ATol
Thank you, Jay Liu (letter, Apr 6). I now have a much deeper understanding of
your point of view. Your line about my Taiwanese prostitute made it very clear.
Richard Mecchi
Taipei, Taiwan (Apr 7, '04)
Before I begin, I wish to express my utter shock that [Jay] Liu's letter to the
editor [Apr 6] would contain such crude and crass language about an [letter
writer Richard] Mecchi's wife. Mr Liu, I only [hope] you [will] keep your
thoughts about my wife to yourself after reading my post. In a debate against a
conspiracy theorist, the Law of Conspiracy Theories virtually guarantees the
man backing the conspiracy will always triumph. Can we truly prove there was no
secret FBI [US Federal Bureau of Investigation] plot to assassinate JFK
[president John F Kennedy]? Nor can we truly prove the British royals did not
tamper with Princess Diana's vehicle. As a supporter of a conspiracy theory,
Jay Liu is not bond by fact; rather, he is ruled by his creative imagination.
Case in point is his focus on foul play in the emergency room [ER]. Long before
the American forensic experts confirmed the grazing gunshot wound [of Taiwanese
President Chen Shui-bian] was real, the conspiracy camp had up to four
scenarios. No 1, President Chen allowed someone to slice him with a knife
before the rally. No 2, a sharpshooter aimed to graze President Chen as
instructed along the procession. No 3, the doctors and nurses in the emergency
room were part of the conspiracy to cut him two centimeters deep with a
surgical scalpel. And No 4, a sharpshooter planted in the ER grazed Chen
followed by the team of doctors ready to suture him up. Even with the
confirmation of the gunshot wound, the conspiracy theorist still has at his
disposal two working conspiracy theories. Mathematically, a shooter would need
to be accurate down to 0.0036 second if he was to shoot Chen during the
procession. Therefore, Mr Liu has chosen to focus on the emergency room. Was
the emergency room able to provide second-by-second video capture of the entire
process from when Chen walked into the ER door to the actual suturing? Of
course not. How can we prove to Mr Liu that the team of doctors and nurses
didn't conspire to cheat him out of his vote? How can we prove to Mr Liu that
there wasn't a planted gunman waiting to graze Chen before he lie down for the
suturing of his wound? We can't. Mr Liu wins his argument by virtue of lack of
evidence to disprove his conspiracy theory. A hundred forensic exports can come
and go, but because there was no video play-by-play accounting for every second
from Chen's entry into the ER to the suturing of his wound, Mr Liu will always
win his conspiracy argument. Such is the Law of Conspiracy Theories.
Dr Tzu-Hsiu Tseng (Apr 7, '04)
Your [Apr 6] article by Alan Boyd about the Law of the
Sea [LOS] Convention is factually inaccurate about so much
that I don't know where to begin [The
UN's sinking law of the sea]. Well, yes I do. Boyd states
that the major bone of contention involves the "International Seabed
Authority", which would allegedly regulate marine pollution and issue permits
for fishing. Wrong, wrong, double wrong. The ISA's permitting authority extends only
to deep-seabed minerals (eg, manganese "nodules") beyond the limits of national
jurisdiction - that is, beyond 200 nautical miles from the coast and beyond
the continental margin. The sorry truth is that the extreme right wing in the
United States has recently embarked on a disinformation campaign via the web,
wherein extraordinary powers are imputed to the ISA in order to prevent US
accession by spreading fear among the ignorant and gullible. Asia Times Online
should be neither. It should certainly not presume to summarize a treaty of
such breadth and complexity without either reading it or interviewing an
academic source who has. I was on the original US delegation to the LOS
negotiations, 1973-77, and was later general counsel of our National Oceanic
and Atmospheric Administration. I have represented private clients on
international maritime matters, including the effects of the LOS Treaty, and
would be more than happy to answer any questions about the treaty you may have,
or refer you to someone who can answer them. Please don't print any more
disinformation.
Robert J McManus
Washington, DC (Apr 6, '04)
Re:
In defense of the Stars and Stripes, Apr 3. It seems that
"Anti-Americanism" can be used to squelch anything critical that "foreigners"
may have to say about the US government. Kind of strange as the US is very much
a land of individual opinions, public debates and controversies, much more than
Old Europe.
Usman Qazi
Palo Alto, California (Apr 6, '04)
[Re:
In defense of the Stars and Stripes, Apr 3.] Thank you John
Parker. Well said! I've linked your article on my blog, hope you don't mind. I
would have said something along those lines had I been as articulate as you.
Mehran Sharmini
London, England (Apr 6, '04)
Weblog
Isn't there really anything of importance happening in the Philippines? Your
coverage of that country has hewed mostly to the absurd and ridiculous. I see
no in-depth analysis of the situation of Filipino Muslims nor of the peasant
rebellion being led by the National Democratic Front nor even of the presence
of 1,400 US troops in oil-rich Palawan, the frightening incursion of the
US-trained Philippine military into civilian political authority, etc, etc.
Reports on the Philippines seem to build consistently an image of the country
as not a very serious place even though there are serious issues and points of
contention all over the 1,700 islands. Does your correspondent bother to leave
the coffee shops of Manila?
Jazmine Medina (Apr 6, '04)
There are indeed serious issues in the Philippines, one of which is perhaps the
failure of its government to take things seriously when appropriate. If there
are farcical elements, for example, to the current election campaign, these
need to be reported, and our correspondents there choose to do so in a
colorful, lively writing style. That said, your blanket criticism of our
Philippines coverage is easily countered, as a search on our election stories,
or on terrorism or the Maoist insurgents, will show. But our resources are
limited and we cannot cover everything; we apologize if we have not been able
to do the stories you would like to see. - ATol
Richard Mecchi is poor reader, obviously confused and clearly presumptuous. His
letter (Apr 5) plainly indicates that truth means nothing to him because he is
so blinded by what he already believes religiously. I would never [stoop] to
Mecchi's level in order to put my words into his mouth, but I will be damned if
I allow him to put his into mine. What would he say if one were to accuse him
with no basis of being on some weird stuff fed to him by his Taiwanese wife or
prostitute? Had Mecchi bothered to read more carefully what I had actually
written, he would certainly have realized that I had never brought up the
incident involving Chen [Shui-bian]'s wife 18 years ago. It will definitely be
beneficial for Mecchi's own good to forgo his arrogance and have another look
at some historical facts that I was trying to point out in my previous letter
(Apr 2): Chen pulled a similar election-eve stunt 18 years ago when he was
supposedly poisoned and shown on TV with IV [intravenous] tubes in him; he was
perfectly fine the next day, albeit he lost that local election. His wife was
paralyzed after that election, but that has nothing to do with the content of
my previous letter. Readers like Richard Mecchi and Daniel McCarthy like to
believe what DPP [Democratic Progressive Party] spin masters feed them while
consistently failing to face some painful facts. I cannot tell Mecchi to
believe anything, but any intelligent individual would keep an open mind until
all the facts the are out. How can anyone conclude anything from a wound
consistent with a gunshot? Yet Mecchi would have us believe without a shred of
indisputable evidence that everything is kosher. Only a real idiot would try to
pull an elaborate hoax and not make sure that evidence for the claim still gets
produced. The intelligent Taiwanese would certainly know that already, and so
should Mecchi. Another fact that Mecchi tries very hard to ignore
contemptuously was that most of the Taiwanese, whose intelligence Mecchi claims
to uphold and defend so blindly, still count themselves as Chinese as well.
Jay Liu
USA (Apr 6, '04)
Over the past months I have grown to like and respect your e-mag, and I
often recommend it to friends and colleagues as offering an insightful
Asia-based perspective that has been all too lacking since the demise of Asia
Week. I do, however, think you have scraped the bottom of the barrel with John
Parker's spluttering and blinkered review of [Jean-Francois] Revel's deeply
flawed Anti-Americanism [In
defense of the Stars and Stripes, Apr 3]. Please do us a
favor and drop him from your contributors list. I really like Spengler and
Gavin Coates' cartoons.
Steven Jarvis (Apr 5, '04)
I have just finished reading John Parker's Hymn to Bush disguised as a review
of [Jean-Francois] Revel's Anti-Americanism [In
defense of the Stars and Stripes, Apr 3]. One would think
that there were no loyal opposition in America to the
president-elected-and-guided-by-God. Yet he won less than half the popular
vote. Likewise, despising big business and foreign wars are old traditions in
America. Talk to any older small-town Republican. I am glad, nevertheless, that
ATol keeps publishing the letters and reviews of [George W] Bush fans. Keep up
the good work.
Lester Ness
Member, Loyal Opposition
Putian, China (Apr 5, '04)
By the time I had read John Parker's article
In defense of the Stars and Stripes [Apr
3], I couldn't help but praise Asia Times Online for its virtue as a
publication which is truly without agendas or allegiance to any group, in my
humble opinion of course. I need the [types] of John Parker, Henry C K Liu
(thank you for your presentation on Mao [Mao
and Lincoln Part 2: Great Leap Forward not all bad, Apr 1),
Pepe Escobar, and others so I can be exposed to fresh new ideas - something
that is almost impossible to extract from the daily bombardment of "official
and qualified" mainstream media and publications, be it CNN, Fox, Xinhua News,
BBC, or any other self-proclaimed fair and impartial agency. John Parker's
review is indeed something refreshing other than the pathetic bickerings
between American politicians/intellectuals and that of the rest of the world.
However, [despite] the thesis John Parker's review of the French book put
forth, most which I strongly agree [with], to think that America ... is pure
and innocent of the "crimes" the Europeans are carrying out against America
plays directly into the European concept of "American arrogance" - something
America needs to avoid so as to maintain the New American Century. Again, there
is no evil of being an imperialist if one [has] what it takes to be [one].
Zihan (Apr 5, '04)
I attempted to read John Parker's review of Anti-Americanism, and I
couldn't get through it [ [In
defense of the Stars and Stripes, Apr 3]. It should have
been published as an op-ed piece, as so much of it contained his own opinions
about critiques of the US - something that I have no interest in, as he doesn't
seem to have anything insightful to say on the subject. (Note: Not all people
who criticize the US are failed or frustrated Marxists; many of us recognize
that in the US, as in many countries, policies and policymakers often do not
reflect the views of their citizens. Consider the subject of universal health
care in the US - something most people here support - or the fact that citizens
had to be badgered and terrorized by fictions of nuclear-laden drones flying
many thousands of miles to destroy them before they supported an invasion of
Iraq.) In spite of the fact that I'm one of those people Mr Parker so obviously
loathes, I might I have been interested in reading this book had the review you
published been a thoughtful examination instead of a springboard for someone's
poorly thought-out rantings. Better to have let Spengler review it; I often
disagree with him, but he's thoughtful, intelligent and amusing.
Laurie
Seattle, Washington (Apr 5, '04)
In reference to Sultan Shahin's article
US smarts over India-China ties [Apr 3], I
have the following comments. First, any border has to be agreed by people from
both sides. There were no agreements of borders before India was created by the
British 50-some years ago. In the early 19th century, both India and China were
struggling to resist colonists' occupations. Indians and Chinese never had the
opportunity to discuss border issues. It is completely unreasonable to say who
is occupying whose land. Now it is time for these two countries to settle the
border issue peacefully. However, the border settlement has to be reasonable.
India's claim of Aksai Chin has no economic value at all to India. India cannot
even access the area. However, China has a strategic highway through this
uninhabited area. If India owns the Aksai Chin, China will have to build
another highway around that area through high mountains. India will not gain
anything. China will lose a lot. That request is not reasonable at all. India
has to be flexible on that subject. The China-India border is much closer to
India's major cities than to China's. Any border conflicts will cause more
damage to the Indian side than the China side. It is in the best interest for
India to settle the border issue peacefully as soon as possible. I am sure if
India is going to treat China reasonably, China will cooperate with India. But
it has to be on a reasonable basis.
Frank
Seattle, Washington (Apr 5, '04)
Based on a statistical analyses of articles on India, Pakistan and China
published in Asia Time Online over the last two years, it appears that Asia
Time Online engages in putting a negative spin on news related to India while
at the same time doing the same for news about Pakistan and China. You have
your Muslim correspondent from India (Sultan Shahin) relentlessly accentuate
the negative about India, eg: what was the factual basis for his latest
article,
US smarts over India-China ties [Apr 3]? Nowhere in the text
does he have any reference or quote of any (official or unofficial) US source
that actually supports his sensational title. Instead he again drags [in] the
usual Islamist red herring about the BJP [Bharatiya Janata Party]. Even the
articles on India written by non-Muslims (eg Siddarth [Srivastava]) are biased
to the negative either through your instructions to the writers or later
editorial malfeasance. The articles on Pakistan (including the [Abdul Qadeer]
Khan nuclear smuggling) or China's interference in South Asia are on the other
hand in general very favorable. You have been exposed. You really need to prove
that you are not on the payroll of the nefarious Pakistani and/or Chinese
state-sponsored terrorist/smuggling rings. Otherwise your reporters in India
will be exposed in the free media as stooges. Yahoo, which does a lot of
business in India, will be asked to drop your articles on India as being
propagandistic and contrary to journalistic norms. You will be expected to
publish in your website the complete list of your funders and staff with
national origin. The ball is in your court.
Dev (Apr 5, '04)
Thanks for the warning. - ATol
Thank you for your various articles on Iraq, Pakistan, India and China. The
views and news expressed are not readily available or never represented in our
own press. Without the work of the likes of Sultan Shahin I would not be aware
of the new shape of politics in Asia - not at least until something big
happened in relation to the US.
Jim Miles
Vernon, British Columbia (Apr 5, '04)
Siddarth Srivastava's article [The
young Turks of Indian politics, Apr 2] adulates the entry of
heirs of politicians in the elections as a refreshing change on the basis of
their Western education. If Rahul Gandhi had been born to an Indian
middle-class family he would be an embarrassment to the family: an unemployed
(notwithstanding the money that was spent on his holiday in Harvard and sojourn
in London) college dropout in his 30s living with a girlfriend. If he is
elected as a member of parliament then he will certainly be praised as a "role
model" for Indian youth by journalists like Siddarth. I certainly don't
understand the logic in Siddarth's argument: Just because one spent some time
in the Ivy League universities, does that automatically mean he becomes modern
and has the necessary capability to tackle the ills of Indian society?
Kannan (Apr 5, '04)
Wen-Kai Tang and Jay Liu want us to believe Taiwanese are blithering idiots
(letters, Apr 2). Both want us to believe that the shooting of Taiwan's
President Chen Shui-bian was an elaborate hoax that stole true victory from the
KMT [Kuomintang] and that the poor, stupid Taiwanese are too dim-witted to
realize. Mr Tang wants us to believe that Taiwanese are so feeble-minded that
large numbers of them really wanted to vote for the pan-blue alliance but
changed their well thought out opinions simply on the basis of the president
and vice president being injured. A few months ago Anna Lindh, the enormously
popular foreign minister of Sweden, was assassinated one week before a
referendum on Sweden adopting the euro. Ms Lindh was a staunch advocate for a
"yes" vote. However, while the majority of Swedes felt enormous sympathy
towards Ms Lindh, they still voted firmly against the referendum. What would Mr
Tang say to this? Is it because Swedes are capable of making rational decisions
in a time of national tragedy and Taiwanese cannot because they are all
imbeciles? As for Mr Liu, he wants us to believe that even after independent
experts from the US have confirmed that President Chen's wounds are consistent
with a gunshot, the whole thing was really a fake because the doctors created
the wound in the hospital. He even goes so far as to insinuate, without a shred
of evidence, that the tragedy that befell the president's wife 18 years ago was
also an elaborate hoax. Of course we believe you, Mr Liu. The evil president is
willing to cut open his stomach and the evil fist lady is prepared to be run
over by a truck three times and spend the rest of her life in a wheelchair
because they so desperately want power. Of course we believe you. We also
believe in the Easter Bunny and the tooth fairy. It is not surprising that the
Taiwanese are increasingly rejecting the foreign, colonialist KMT regime when
their mouthpieces such as Mr Tang and Mr Liu show such contempt for Taiwanese
intelligence.
Richard Mecchi
Taipei (Apr 5, '04)
I have to disagree with Laurence Eyton's analysis of the recent polls in the
Republic of China [Taiwan
polls: Off the streets, into the courts, Apr 2]. It is clear that Mr
Eyton's analysis is biased in favor of the DPP [Democratic Progressive Party],
but his statements border on the absurd. Just to take one example, he states:
"The only evidence that the pan-blues would have won the election by 500,000
votes comes from the pan-blues' own polls released early March 19. There is no
more reason to believe these than to believe a DPP poll released 12 hours
earlier that predicted a DPP win by 160,000 votes. Polling subsequent to the
election suggests that there was in fact no sympathy vote for the president."
This is obviously false. While it is true that ROC law forbids publishing polls
within 10 days of the election, it does not forbid taking of polls. After the
election, both TVBS and ERA television stations independently published their
polls taken right before the election. Both polls clearly showed that on March
18, two days before the election, Lien-Soong had a 10-point lead over the
Chen-Lu ticket. But polls taken on March 19 after the shooting of Chen
[Shui-bian] both showed a virtual tie. Most bookies, even those based in the
southern part of Taiwan province, a DPP stronghold, showed the odds were for a
Lien-Soong victory by 700,000 to 1 million votes.
Wen-Kai Tang
Brooklyn, New York (Apr 2, '04)
[Laurence] Eyton, the DPP [Democratic Progressive Party] mouthpiece, was at it
again in
Taiwan polls: Off the streets, into the courts [Apr 2]. He must have
been imagining things when he asserted: "US experts spent two days examining
evidence and the president's wound. Their conclusions tallied exactly with the
government's version of events." Nothing of the sort can be concluded from what
the experts have actually said. They only indicated that Chen [Shui-bian]'s
wound was consistent with a fresh gunshot. Unless Eyton or Asia Times can
provide indisputable recording evidence with no interruptions whatsoever in
recording time, one possibility must be allowed: something suspicious might
indeed have been going on in the hospital while nothing actually hurt Chen or
[Vice President Annette] Lu during the campaign rally earlier on March 19. If
one were to stage an assassination stunt, he or she would of course make sure
that (1) fake assassination targets would not really get hurt and (2) evidences
would otherwise still get produced to support such a claim. Why else would Chen
not go to a public hospital actually closer to the scene and on the list of
treating presidential emergencies? How hard is it to produce a wound consistent
with a gunshot in a controlled operating room and then stitch it up? How can
one trust Chen if he already pulled a similar election eve stunt 18 years ago?
Jay Liu
USA (Apr 2, '04)
Siddharth Srivastava is celebrating the entry [into Indian politics] of sons of
all the politicians [The
young Turks of Indian politics, Apr 2]. And he says Rahul Gandhi heads
"qualified young people seeking a position in the hallowed parliament of
India". I wonder what his qualifications are other than being born to the right
people. (He has never completed college and never belonged to any profession,
and he is 33.) And further he says it's a tradition in India that people follow
their parents for their professions. Mr Srivastava also claims India is
modernizing. He doesn't seem to see the irony in his argument. ... If all we
are going to have is royal families ruling India and so-called "modern"
journalists celebrating it, I wonder why we have to waste money in elections.
[I] hope journalists like Srivastava realize that India is what it is today
because of the hard work and dedication of thousands of engineers, scientists
and other professionals who came from mostly humble backgrounds ... Mr
Srivastava is mistaken and misleading others if he is advocating that India is
a modern nation because the "royal" families have sons who have Italian or
Colombian girlfriends and the stupid and illiterate will vote them into
parliament. And these half-educated guys either have not completed their
studies or haven't made themselves into anything professionally even after
shelling out a lot of money at Harvard-like schools. Or is it that Mr
Srivastava is also born to a journalist and he is one of those who inherited
these privileges rather than earn them as one has to in any really modern
society?
Ram
Canada (Apr 2, '04)
As an avid reader of Asia Times, I appreciate diverse views and
not-so-mainstream opinions. While I consider myself open-minded and tolerant, I
am feeling both angry and disappointed. I am appalled at Henry Liu's attempt to
distort Mao [Zedong]'s evil intent and to trivialize the devastation of "the
Great Leap Forward" on the entire nation [of China] for several generations [Mao
and Lincoln Part 2: Great Leap Forward not all bad, Apr 1]. I am
disappointed by Asia Times' inability to see the lack of knowledge of the true
historical event and its ramification by the writer. Furthermore, on top of
being completely untrue, the article made such a weak and ill-supported
argument, it would make the denial [by] neo-Nazis of the genocide by [Adolf]
Hitler look convincing. As a Chinese-American, I am also appalled by the
author's comparison of our great president Abraham Lincoln to a dictator. The
article is so ridiculous in its argument in totality, I cannot even start to
single out its specifics. It is so very transparent that the author tried so
strenuously to make his thesis work, he had to make up and stretch his own
interpretation of Mao's benign intentions and his simple and cynical twist of
Lincoln's.
Fangwei He (Apr 2, '04)
I highly commend [Henry C K] Liu for his courage in speaking his mind [Mao
and Lincoln Part 2: Great Leap Forward not all bad, Apr 1]. I find he
presents a very unconventional view, compared to what I hear every day. But
then I am awash with typical Western media, which though having many different
outlets, are pretty much monologue. It is rarely acknowledged by the West, if
at all, that since the birth of the PRC [People's Republic of China], hundreds
of millions of Chinese people have [been] lifted out of starvation and poverty.
It is [an achievement on] a scale unprecedented in history. I also commend ATol
for its response to negative reviews of the article. I particularly like your
argument about listening to the views of other (1.3 billion) people [editor's
note, Mar 31]. You are one of the few media outlets that practice true [freedom
of the] press. Keep up the good work!
JT
Australia (Apr 2, '04)
I notice that [Henry C K] Liu is quite lacking in most forms of documentation,
meaning that, at best, his essays comparing Mao [Zedong] to [Abraham] Lincoln
(a strange and seemingly random comparison in the first place) are only theory
and unfounded opinion [Mao
and Lincoln Part 2: Great Leap Forward not all bad, Apr 1]. For all the
reader knows, he simply fabricated the data on things like death statistics and
wheat imports to support the Maoist paradigm he's constructed. Mr Liu might as
well write an essay about how Mao rose to power after his army of Spartans
defeated Simon Bolivar's army of Janissaries during the American Revolution at
the Battle of Lepanto. Mr Liu's method of writing wouldn't even pass in an
ordinary high school, for lack of footnotes and a bibliography. A tsk, tsk to
you, Mr/Ms Editor for allowing it into print.
Stephen Renico
Detroit, Michigan (Apr 2, '04)
In response to Richard Einhorn's letter, below [Mar 31], an ATol editor asked
if we should "not at least familiarize ourselves with [Henry C K Liu's version
of history] before we brand it as 'nonsense'?" Contrary to the editor's
condescending assumption, disagreement with Liu does not imply unfamiliarity
with the spin on history that he favors. When we read that a US trade embargo
is to blame for the deaths of millions of Chinese during the Great Leap Forward
[Mao and
Lincoln Part 2: Great Leap Forward not all bad, Apr 1], a knee-jerk, if
understated, response that it is mere "nonsense" is admittedly premature.
Readers should become familiar with Liu's musings, and ponder that many other
mainland Chinese hold similar views. Then one would realize that these fictions
are actually "dangerous nonsense". But the response should not be to banish Liu
from ATol. It should be the opposite. He should be translated for the
Chinese-language version of ATol (if he is not already), along with the
responses to his articles, so that mainland Chinese can better understand views
contrary to the version of history that they are spoon-fed throughout their
lives, and that Liu obsequiously promotes. Mr Einhorn wishes for a detailed
rebuttal of Liu's article. A little common sense is always all that is needed
to illustrate the emptiness of Liu's arguments. For example: If the US embargo
of China is to blame for the millions who starved during the Great Leap
Forward, then why did Peng Dehuai take Mao [Zedong] to task for his
incompetence, and why did Mao admit to being the cause of the chaos? Mao
obviously knew an embargo was in place, and knew the potential risks of drought
and flooding, yet he and his sycophantic followers went ahead with the Great
Leap Forward anyway, and are therefore entirely to blame for the debacle. No
leader with the slightest intelligence or human compassion would implement such
wrenching economic changes without first putting into place well-thought-out
contingency plans. Mao and his toadies are guilty of almost inconceivable
ineptitude. Mr Einhorn is right - Liu is no historian. A historian does
original research. Liu's recent article is simply a second-hand distortion of
Shu Guang Zhang's book Economic Cold War: America's Embargo Against China
... And the article isn't even an ATol original. Much of it appears under Liu's
byline, verbatim, elsewhere on the Internet, dated August 28, 2002. The ATol
editors may not know the difference between a historian and a propagandizing
hack, but, to their credit, they know what sells.
Geoffrey Sherwood
New Jersey, USA (Apr 2, '04)
Regarding Henry C K Liu's
Mao and Lincoln Part 1: Demon and deity. Perhaps I can make a quick
comment upon Mr Liu's [Noam] Chomsky-like political views. Mr Liu writes: "This
concept of the rule of law is different from that used in the US legal system,
in which laws are made by lobbyists, manipulated to serve special interests and
applied by courts dominated by high-priced lawyers. The US legal system is
blatantly undemocratic, with its courts packed with politically appointed
judges and a legal-fee structure unaffordable by the average citizen." Anyone
can form, join, or support a political action committee and employ lobbyists.
That's what the NAACP [National Association for the Advancement of Colored
People] does, the ACLU [American Civil Liberties Union] does, the Sierra Club
does, and what Greenpeace does. According to the census, America has at least
280 million special interests. And courts use all kinds of lawyers; some are
expensive, some are pro bono. And saying that the US legal system is blatantly
undemocratic suggests that the rest of the system is democratic. The United
States was formed as a republic; it's full of checks and balances preventing
pure democracy from being executed. Politically appointed judges, if anything,
are democracy in action. The electorate votes in the politicians who then
nominate the judges. In the case of federal nominees, they enter the murky
waters of the political arena and sink, like Robert Bork, or barely swim, like
Clarence Thomas. As to the legal-fee structure being unaffordable by the
average citizen, that's a questionable premise as well. The average citizen has
access to small-claims court, which costs nothing. Business people - small and
large - have access to binding arbitration, which avoids lawyers altogether and
is quite inexpensive. And all of us have access to trial lawyers who work on a
commission basis. If your lawyer loses the case, it costs you nothing. If your
lawyer wins the case for you, he or she takes somewhere around a 30 percent
cut. If no lawyer is willing to take on your case, then it is overwhelmingly
likely that your case is simply not actionable. In addition to this, people
like my father take on cases pro bono every year ... [Abraham] Lincoln as an
elected politician was definitely a mixed bag. Mao [Zedong], on the other hand,
rose to become an emperor of the old school. At times, Mao could kill on a
whim. That was never an option for Lincoln. And the following statement of Mr
Liu's takes the cake so far this year for double standards: "In the context of
the strong US tradition of civil liberty, Lincoln's assault on due process was
decidedly more violent than Mao's alleged autocratic leadership style, since
such is natural in Chinese political tradition." Having said all of this, I
enjoy reading Mr Liu's work. Please keep publishing it.
Biff Cappuccino
Taipei, Taiwan (Apr 2, '04)
The recent article by Emad Mekay [Iraq
invaded 'to protect Israel' - US official, Mar 31] made some
interesting points but in the end, they are still the same analysis
neo-liberals have bombard the [US] administration with ever since the ascension
of [President George W Bush] and the same kind of mumbo-jumbo Europeans spread
about. President Bush took a great risk by invading Iraq for personal agendas
instead of focusing on the war on terror; whether or not he will pay the price
is up to the American voters when November comes, the first ever
neo-conservative vs neo-liberal election in American history. In any event, to
think that America invaded Iraq for Israel is an exaggeration of American
generosity. Underneath all the political bickering between neo-liberals and
neo-conservatives, it is an America that is fully bent on capitalizing on its
status as the dominator of Earth. In my humble opinion, America had a greater
objective than just the black gold or Israel or democracy or other shining
banners that humans can put forward. This is the same objective that the
Europeans had 100 years ago in the era of imperialism and empires. Is that too
hard to understand? Can we blame America for being the superpower that she is
today? She deserves every single piece of the glory as a superpower for all
that she has accomplished, and as they said, it is the American Century. Its
really too bad - had Americans possessed the experience and virtue of a true
world leader she would have united the human race under her banner and
ideology. But what the heck, America is only 200 years old. At the same time, I
couldn't help but [be] amused by the European response ever since the
invasion/liberation. I see only one reason behind the European response:
jealousy. The Europeans dominated the world for 300 years, and now they no
longer dominate, they are being dominated. Europeans saw what America had done,
the same kind of things they had done when they were the dominators of the
world (albeit American domination is much preferable to theirs). Does their
loud condemnation of America mean that Europeans are showing remorse for what
they had done? No, they merely think it is okay for them to be imperialists, it
is not okay for America to be one. Europeans, for all they have done in the
past, are in no moral position to condemn America, just as America is in no
position to condemn the PRC [People's Republic of China] over Tibet. There is
no evil of being an imperialist if you got the stuff for being one. Europeans,
eat our shorts.
ZZ Zhu
Rutgers, New Jersey (Apr 2, '04)
Re
Iraq invaded 'to protect Israel' - US official, Mar 31, by
Emad Mekay. The few distressed reactions to this article that you have
published confirm that rabid Zionism has feet of clay. Conscientious Jews
should be encouraged to dismantle this monster from within, for the good of
everyone (especially the US).
Usman Qazi
Palo Alto, California (Apr 2, '04)
I hope the readers of the article
Iraq invaded 'to protect Israel' - US official,
Mar 31, also remember another article a few days earlier, about the evangelical
roots of US Mideast policy [The
evangelical roots of US unilateralism, Mar 26]. Perhaps Iraq
was invaded in order to make the Second Coming of Jesus a little sooner.
Lester Ness
Putian University
Putian, China (Apr 2, '04)
[Re
Iraq invaded 'to protect Israel' - US official, Mar 31] by
Emad Mekay. Apparently this is a statement made by a top-level American
intelligence official. I share this view with millions of other Europeans who
protested at the start of this conflict last year. This not only exposes the
true motives behind America's zeal to invade a sovereign Arab state (with or
without UN approval) but begs further questions about the true causes of the
September 11 [2001] tragedy and the real perpetrators behind this heinous
crime. There are many unanswered questions in the chain of events leading to
the September 11 tragedy, which shocked the world to such an extent that
emotions overcame logical thinking. Americans wanted to see a rapid reaction
from their administration (who appeared to have been caught wrong-footed) and
the administration made the most of the opportunity presented to them.
September 11 caused the death of some 3,000 innocent people in America, but in
the aftermath Muslims of Afghanistan and the Middle East paid the price tenfold
and the count is still unfinished. The proof and evidence given for al-Qaeda's
linkage to September 11 were inconclusive and unconvincing; according to the
American Intelligence agencies the hijackers had been training in the US for
months right under the noses of these agencies. The failure to spot them (or
were they not picked up deliberately?) raises big question about the
credibility of these agencies and the intelligence they supplied on which the
Bush administration based its crusade against the people of Afghanistan and
later Iraq. Clearly there have been only two winners out of the September 11
incident. From the rubble of the twin towers [of New York's World Trade Center]
emerged the preemptive-strike doctrine which the US has used (and intends to
use in future conflicts) to invade and destroy any state, organization or
institute (including UN) that she feels lie in her path towards "The American
Century". By the same token Israel has been handed a license to kill
(Palestinians) by the US, and [Israeli Prime Minister Ariel] Sharon is making
the most (while it is valid) by killing and pushing the Palestinians out of
their remaining land (whatever is left of it) paving the way for a greater
Israel. Whoever was responsible for September 11 clearly seems to be working to
aid [US President George W] Bush's and Sharon's agenda. The question is whether
we (the general public) will ever get to know the truth. Will the 9/11
Commission yield any new and conclusive evidence? Only time will tell.
Shahzad Raja
London, England (Apr 1, '04)
I cannot believe you are allowed to manipulate and stir propaganda in the
fashion your paper does. I don't know what your agenda is, but the way you
report the 9-11 Commission findings should be a crime. If you think for one
minute that the US attacked Iraq to defend Israel [Iraq
invaded 'to protect Israel' - US official, Mar 31], you are
either intellectually lazy or you simply have an agenda ... shame on you.
Bruce Stewart
Boston, Massachusetts (Apr 1, '04)
We reported not what we think, but what a US official said. - ATol
I check in from time to time to read news and opinion from around the world,
because I am genuinely interested in it. I have to say that I have never seen
such a well-crafted piece of propagandistic garbage as I read just now from
Emad Mekay [under] the headline [Iraq
invaded 'to protect Israel' - US official, Mar 31]. Believe
me, the US is infamous for airing its own dirty laundry in public (one of the
detractions of a true democracy) and god knows the US press and liberal
movements in this country are the worst offenders of throwing whatever sand
[they] can in the face of a conservative administration (liberal movements do
it for political gains, the press does it for ratings and sales - as well as
for the pure sport). But not even these conservative-haters believe that the US
and its current conservative administration actually went to war and dragged
allies with them simply to protect Israel. And Mekay's pursuit of a story
involving one man's opinion (by the way, that man is not an "official"
with the US government as recklessly implied) was incredibly irresponsible -
calling into question the real motive. A liberal agenda? For sport? Or just
simply on deadline trying to jam out whatever story might sell better?
Karl Strauch (Apr 1, '04)
The article cited a speech by Philip Zelikow, whose "official" position is
executive director of the 9-11 Commission. - ATol
Re
Afghanistan: Return of the jihadis [Apr 1] by Syed Saleem
Shahzad: Is this guy a nut or not? He sounds biased and promotes terrorism.
Dan Piecora (Apr 1, '04)
What planet is Richard Hanson from? The viewpoints expressed in his article [Japan-US:
Baseball, taxes and an alliance, Apr 1] are completely alien
to the way I view things. I believe better understanding and mutual respect
between Japan and the rest of the world will only come about when Japan deploys
a credible nuclear deterrence. Richard Hanson's just trying to sell some more
of that academic, democratic, police-state, new-world-order claptrap. What
fosters cooperation and understanding between nations is a real capacity to
destroy/kill other nations' political and economic elites, in the event
everything goes to hell in a handbasket. It's always been that way and will
always remain that way.
Neomoniker (Apr 1, '04)
Regarding the article
Mekong: Drought, not China, to blame [Apr
1], I found this highly amusing, as it is self-evident that water shortages are
caused by a river not flowing downwards and resulting in the water table being
low and causing drought rather than vice versa, and conveniently environment is
to blame. Seeing many other discussions I suggest that this front page should
be something like chinaAnalysis.com. Well anyway, interesting read as to find
how people forget common sense and try to accept mistakes.
Sumit (Apr 1, '04)
It is appalling to have read your ... article written by Henry C K Liu [Mao
and Lincoln Part 2: Great Leap Forward not all bad, Apr 1].
I should say the author is either blindfolded towards human history or a lover
[of] evil. How could a mass [murderer] be praised in your publication? I am a
Chinese and living inside China. I dare to write because I am sick having read
it. Mao [Zedong]'s survival in history is the same as [Joseph] Stalin of the
USSR.
Richard (Apr 1, '04)
I have several questions for [Henry C K] Liu if he would honor me with a
response. The first question is: Why juxtapose [Abraham] Lincoln and Mao
[Zedong], and why now? Second: Who is the intended audience of this series?
Third: would Dr Liu not have been equally well served to quote from Carl
Sandburg's [two-part biography of] Lincoln or from Shelby Foote on Lincoln? I
have not been reading American history as much as I should recently but the
historians Dr Liu cited are rather new to me. Judging by the letters printed in
response to Dr Liu's first article [Mao
and Lincoln Part 1: Demon and deity, Mar 31; see also
Part 2: Great Leap Forward not all bad,
Apr 1] these historians are new to a lot of people. That doesn't imply that
they are any less scholarly, just new. There will always be disagreement
between scholars as to what happened during a particular period of history. It
is also true that the victors tend to write the histories. However, the
vanquished has been known to become the victor during their next meeting and
then history is rewritten again. It is usually several decades before an
accurate and relatively unbiased history of anything can be written.
Controversies over historical events and their meaning are usually the result
of politics. Was Mao as bad as he was painted during the '50s, '60s and early
'70s? I don't know. Then again, he might have been worse. Was Lincoln as bad as
the historians cited by Dr Liu paint him? No. But Lincoln did do things that
weren't necessarily in line with the constitution of the United States. Then
again, there is still a United States and the constitution is intact for the
most part. Today there is also a People's Republic of China (PRC) and the world
must deal with it. Assuming the ostrich position will not make it go away, only
expose our posteriors to a serious "attention step". We will be able to deal
with the PRC much better by understanding its history than by ignoring it. As
[George] Santayana said, "Those who fail to learn from history are condemned to
repeat its mistakes" (or something like that).
Richard Radcliffe
Captain, US Air Force (Retired)
Apple Valley, California (Apr 1, '04)
Historical accounts differ, and the ATol office copy of George Santayana's
Life of Reason seems to be missing, but Santayana's observation is usually cited
as "Those who cannot [or refuse to] learn from history [or cannot remember the
past] are doomed [or condemned] to repeat it." - ATol
Okay, I get it. Henry Liu writes a preposterous article praising Mao [Zedong]
and condemning [Abraham] Lincoln as a way of getting people's attention and
hopefully readership [Mao
and Lincoln Part 1: Demon and deity, Mar 31]. This is a
common practice in certain "journalistic" venues. I suspect his next article
may be titled "I was married to Bigfoot and Elvis". And ATol's excuse [editor's
note below, Mar 31] of presenting a "version embraced by the most populous
country on the planet" (smaller countries, of course, have less reliable
versions) is right up there with the "prove it didn't happen" alibis that alien
abductees give. Entertainment? Sure. Journalism? Not a chance.
Joseph Walker
USA (Apr 1, '04)
Thank you for publishing and responding to my letter [Mar 31, with editor's
note]. To comment: [George] Orwell is obviously wrong, that history is always
written by the winners: losers like Anne Frank and Alexander Solzhenitzyn often
provide eloquent testimony that makes the winners extremely uncomfortable. But
even if Orwell is mostly right - even if he was totally right - good history,
based on the historical record and an understanding of what that record means,
is always written by the very knowledgeable. Henry C K Liu, whatever his other
fine qualities, simply doesn't know what he's talking about. Based upon the
ample evidence he provides of his lack of understanding of historical context
in discussing Mao Zedong and Abraham Lincoln, there is as little reason to take
Mr Liu seriously as there would be someone advocating UFO landings in Roswell,
New Mexico. However, Mr Liu is indeed worth reading for precisely the reason
you state. They help the non-Chinese understand how truly distorted the
teaching of history has become inside China, the most populous nation on the
planet. But that is not all. Liu's opinions serve as a warning for all of us
who care about history to redouble our efforts to "get it right", ie, to base
our sense of the past on the widest, deepest and most careful study and
analysis of the original documents, and, when it's needed, to revise long-held
conventional wisdom (such as the relationship of Thomas Jefferson to Sally
Hemings). But to recognize an obvious truism about the study of history - that
there are numerous, often contradictory, but equally valid interpretations of
an historical event - does not mean that "anything goes", that all historical
theses are equally valid. The Holocaust really did happen. In the 20th century,
people really did travel back and forth to the moon. However, the ancient
Egyptians did not invent airplanes. And there never were over 200 communists in
the US State Department, as Joseph McCarthy claimed. Now, in Lincoln studies,
there are many fascinating, eternally open questions: the question of how
Lincoln ordered his moral priorities - was the restoration of the Union or
freedom for slaves foremost in Lincoln's mind? - always needs to be looked at
and examined afresh. As do the legal and military decisions Lincoln made. I'm
sure the same is true of Mao studies. But Lincoln coming out the worst in a
comparison with Mao over a commitment to liberty and equality? Oh, please. As
history, that's as valid a position (and as interesting) as the maliciously
intended fallacies of American creationists. It's just not worth the effort to
debunk. However, I certainly hope for your readers' sakes that someone who
really knows what Mao did, who really knows what Lincoln did, someone who has
spent a lifetime studying them, will respond in detail. For if any of your
readers are encountering details about Lincoln's or Mao's lives for the first
time, Mr Liu's opinions are less than helpful. And these days, when, as you
point out, history is so willfully abused by powerful, malignant governments,
everyone needs all the help we can get.
Richard Einhorn
New York, New York (Apr 1, '04)
George Orwell's point, though he did not and could not cite the Anne Frank
example specifically, was that if the Nazis had won World War II her story
would probably never have been told. Therefore, though she herself lost her
life, it was the winners of that conflict - those who defeated Anne's murderers
- who made her diary part of recorded history. - ATol |