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Note: On May 27, Asia Times Online ran an article by Loro Horta titled As East Timor burns ... that was critical of Prime Minister Mari Alkatiri. Alkatiri's son, Lukeno Ribeiro Alkatiri, has sent a letter to the editor in response. As it is quite long, we are running it on a separate file; please click here to read it. - ATol


Thank you for Spengler's insightful essay on The Da Vinci Code, both the book and the movie [The Da Vinci Code's secret of success, May 31]. The rabbis of the Talmud taught their pupils about four levels of commentary: (1) Pashat, the simple meaning of the text; (2) Remes, what the text alludes to; (3) DeRash, how the text may be applied to contemporary situations; and (4) Sod, what the text may mean at a deeper or spiritual level. When it comes to religio-socio-politico commentary, Spengler seldom disappoints, giving his readers a multi-dimensional gloss on his chosen topic, buttressed by an encyclopedic knowledge of history, religion and the geopolitical trends du jour. He stands head and shoulders above the vast majority of his contemporary pundits.
Richard Greene
USA (May 31, '06)


I usually don't disagree too much with Spengler when he rants about Islamism and its dangers, yet I see him falling into the same hole from where the Islamists sprang [The Da Vinci Code's secret of success, May 31]. Spengler's raving against the book and its author would be considered logical only by those who are blinded by their belief. Spengler says pretty much what the Islamists say when after any terrorist bombing they claim that "this isn't Islam". After every murder or maiming in the name of Allah they claim "this isn't real Islam". Spengler attempts to put the blame for all of Europe's ills on paganism. Yet one must consider where were these pagans during the genocide in the new world of the Americas and during the Imperial Age. When the British engineered famines in India, or smuggled drugs into China, or when the Spanish just shot everyone in Mexico or when the Americans deliberately spread disease in the Great Plains; where were the pagans? Be it traditional European Christians or evangelical Americans, all of this was done in the name of Glory, Gold and GOD! To turn around and say that this is the fault of the pagans is rubbish, since it was mainly the pagans and non-Christians who were on the receiving end of the murders. The fact is that we despise the Islamists because they see fit to commit murder in the name of spreading their religion or destroying someone else's, thus we must also hate the sort of Christianity that was practiced years ago that tried to do the same precise thing. A resurgent evangelical sort of Christianity won't help the world, it will only further damage it. Those against the book forget that the basic message of Christ (peace, brotherhood and goodwill to all humankind) is never challenged by the author. The message of Christ stands as pure as ever; the curse of organized centralized religion blurs it in the name of glory for God. A little bit of loose, decentralized paganism that doesn't seek to swallow everyone, impose its will on the planet, but simply live and let live (like Christ intended) is the answer to the world's problems, not the reason behind [them]. Beware Spengler, in your fight against the Islamist, you might just become its mirror image.
Aryan Singh Rathore
Somewhere in Arabia (May 31, '06)


Thanks, Spengler, your article [The Da Vinci Code's secret of success, May 31] is so supremely shallow and weak-minded that I have passed the stage of feeling disgusted with you; I simply cannot take you seriously, and scold myself for taking you seriously even for the two months that I've been looking in on Asia Times Online. I feel that you yourself are snickering as you write any garbled idea that enters your mind. To ATol I would only ask, "Why?" I recall the editor giving a wonderful defense of why he permitted Spengler to voice himself [The world's only supersuicide bomber, Apr 11], but at that time I only read the editor's defense and not Spengler. Please do not misunderstand; I do not consider Spengler a racist, or anti-Muslim or anti-anything. He might or might not be; but this is not the reason he should be cut. It is simply that the man is not a thinker in any sense of the word. How dare he play with real ideas! If ATol wants to keep a writer on [whom] readers "love to hate", can you not find a man of a little higher caliber?
Krischer (May 31, '06)


Re Germany's anthem anathema [May 31]: As a regular reader of this magazine and a German citizen, I was somewhat disappointed by this article. Obviously the author hardly knows anything about the debate in Germany. [Hans-Christian] Stroebele's suggestion was not serious in that he really wanted to get the anthem translated. That was not his point. In fact the German anthem is highly unpopular in Germany especially among the youth, among liberals and among progressives. This is mainly [because it was used] during fascism as well, with the only difference that the emphasis had been put on another verse ("Deutschland, Deutschland ueber alles", "Germany, Germany above everything else"). Thus the debate was in no way about the translation of the text of the third verse but about acceptance of immigration. In Germany until recently all leading politicians have outright denied the fact that Germany is an immigration country. Still today most conservatives and some social democrats would not agree to the most obvious, that millions of people have come to stay. In these contexts Stroebele wanted to make a point, to mark the obvious: that Germany is (not will become) a multilingual (not bilingual, as the author wrote) nation, which is as most readers of this international magazine will agree the global norm. Indeed, there are some linguistic minorities which already have official recognition - the Danes, the Frisians and the Sintis (as the German Roma call themselves) and the Sorbs (Slavonic-speaking). Besides that there are many other languages spoken, and not just Turkish. Among others, a lot of the people considered Turkish rather call themselves Kurdish, which Ankara probably does not like very much. However, it is in no way true that the immigrants, neither the Turkish nor the others, just keep to their language. They use both German and their original language, and their kids are usually not very good in their mother tongues as they don't get the proper education in it. In a nutshell: To write about German immigration policies through the glasses of Turkish newspapers gives a somewhat distorted picture, one which is hardly to recognizable for an insider.
Wolfgang Pomrehn
Berlin, Germany (May 31, '06)


Regarding Fazile Zahir's article on Germany's anthem anathema [May 31], I'd like to point out that the more precise translation of Einwanderungtrio into English would be "Immigration Trio" - "patriotic" is something completely different. Any chance of Germany being given an entirely different anthem? Great paper, though.
Andreas Ardus
Tallinn, Estonia (May 31, '06)


In her [May 31] article Germany's anthem anathema, Fazile Zahir reports on and praises a suggestion by a German politician, one Hans-Christian Stroebele of the Green Party, to formally produce a Turkish version of the German national anthem, to be sung by the Turkish immigrant population in Germany. I find this suggestion to be utterly and absolutely outrageous. Ms Zahir makes a superficial comparison to the recent Spanish-language version, Nuestro Himno, of the US national anthem, but these two situations are completely different. In large parts of the United States - including California, Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado and Florida - Hispanics are the founding population of the towns and cities, having been resident in what is now US territory for many centuries before those lands became part of the USA. Most of those resource-rich territories were transferred from Mexico to the United States as a result of the incredibly bloody and painful Mexican War from 1846-48, a conflict that caused and still causes substantial bitterness. Therefore, in an effort to reconcile the Latino population to US rule and to forestall further fighting in the Mexican War and other conflicts, a number of important treaties were negotiated by the United States for the southwestern states (as well as for Florida and of course Puerto Rico), which guarantee Spanish-language as well as legal and property rights for Latinos therein. In fact, a Spanish-language version of The Star-Spangled Banner was commissioned by the US government itself in the early 20th century as a part of this effort. Therefore, while the Spanish-language anthem in the US is still controversial, there is at least a strong legal and historical precedent for the use and respect of Spanish for official purposes throughout much of the US, since Spanish (like English and the native American languages) is one of the founding languages of the territory which now comprises the United States. The situation for Turks in Germany is completely different. Germany never fought a war against Turkey which resulted in the seizure and transfer of significant territory from Turkey to the modern German nation, and there was never a history or a prior legal framework of treaties therefore guaranteeing Turkish language rights on the land that constitutes Germany. Germany and Turkey have always been very separate nations with very distinct histories, and the Turks who have come to Germany since the 1950s are guests, not original residents of what today constitutes German territory. Thus the Turks in Germany are akin to my Irish Gaelic-speaking ancestors from southern Ireland who came to Illinois and Indiana in the 19th century - they came as guests to work in a foreign nation, without any prior territorial affiliation with their new country. They therefore learned English and sang the national anthem in it. The Turks in Germany, similarly, have come as guests to work in their new home which has generously allowed them in, and in return, it is their responsibility to learn German and sing the national anthem in it. This notion of a Turkish version of the German anthem is even more outrageous since other immigrant groups (such as the Polish, Indian, Chinese and Russian immigrants), often with an even greater presence in Germany, have by and large integrated into German society with much greater ease and are much more willing to adopt the German culture, identify as German citizens and sing the anthem in their adopted language. I hate to be blunt, but I have to honesty report what I have repeatedly seen, as I have worked many stints in Germany over the past five years and witnessed this first-hand: Many Turks complain loudly about how Germany has failed to integrate them, but this is largely because many of them have failed to make an effort to integrate themselves. Integration is an active process by the immigrants, not a passive one handed to them by the government ...
Jeff Campbell
Indianapolis, Indiana (May 31, '06)


Gareth Porter in [Khamenei in control and ready to 'haggle', May 31], states that the real power nexus in Iran is Grand Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, not Iranian President [Mahmud] Ahmadinejad. He further states that Khamenei is a "realist" and is now pressing for negotiations with the USA from a perceived vantage point of power: nascent nuclear capabilities, proxies or allies in the Palestinian government, Afghanistan and Iraq. Is Mr Porter accurate in his assessment? Is there now a unified power structure in Iran that is seeking "detente" with the USA? Have Ayatollah Khamenei's apparently obstreperous paladins (President Ahmadinejad, specifically) been sowing disinformation to further confuse and intimidate the USA by use of the "good cop (Khamenei), bad cop (Ahmadinejad)" routine? Was the (yet to be published) April 2003 offer to the US government sincere or simple disinformation? None of these questions, at least based on independently verifiable data from reputable sources, can be confidently answered, yet Mr Porter insinuates, based on unpublished and (so far as I know) unverified reports, that pacific or, at the very least, thoroughly pragmatic concerns now drive the Iranian government toward a negotiated detente with their American counterparts. My understanding is that a far less cohesive Iranian governmental structure exists, one with numerous countervailing tendencies and power struggles, more than a little tinge of paranoia and an element of well-founded suspicion about the US and its intentions in the region. While the realpolitik strain of Iranian diplomacy cannot and should not be discarded, there [are few] data to suggest, as does Mr Porter, that it is now ascendent. If so, a so-called "Night of the Long Knives" may be required to eliminate the advocates of theocratic "continuous revolution" as embodied in President Ahmadinejad's "faction", both domestically in "the street" and elsewhere, such as in the Palestinian Authority and in Hezbollah. Why? Because, in all probability, a nuanced understanding of the subtle political motives of the Iranian government has probably not been closely reasoned to its logical conclusions by the average Islamist, to whom it has been directed. These ideologues will be more difficult soldiers to discipline. In short, before fully espousing Grand Ayatollah Khamenei as the [Henry] Kissinger of Iran, Mr Porter should recall the observations made by the late US General Samuel B Griffith II in his insightful comments on another great practitioner of realpolitik, Mao Zedong, to wit, "Revolutions rarely compromise: compromises are made only to further the strategic design. Negotiation, then, is undertaken for the dual purpose of gaining time to buttress a position (military, political, social, economic) and to wear down, frustrate and harass the opponent."
Keith Comess (May 31, '06)


In his [May 31] article Singapore makes an honest bet, Gary LaMoshi quotes Merrill Lynch Singapore vice president Sean Monaghan saying: "The Singapore government continues to make decisions in the best long-term interests of the majority of citizens rather than for the benefit of a few." Sadly, the rest of the article chooses to ignore the significance of this simple statement of fact, and to indulge in the usual lazy condescension with which foreigners like to treat Singapore. To LaMoshi, it seems, the involvement of Temasek in any deal is prima facie evidence of conspiracy to defraud the population in favor of the Lee family; there is apparently no scenario in which Temasek itself may, in fact, be part of that long-term plan to benefit Singapore citizens. Maybe this is a result of how politics and economics are taught in the West. Who knows? But may I suggest that, instead of rehashing lazy [observations], perhaps his next article might apply the same principles to other countries. For example, he might dig into the relationship between President [George W] Bush, [Vice President] Dick Cheney and dozens of other White House grandees with corporations like Halliburton, Bechtel and KBR. Then he might consider, can he truthfully conclude that the military-industrial complex in the US is also being managed with a view to the best interests of the majority? (Hint: compare the disparity of wealth between the few and the many in both nations.)
Billy Zand
Singapore (May 31, '06)

Gary LaMoshi is a longtime observer of the relationships between politics and business in Singapore; you offer nothing to counter his conclusions except to suggest he go away and observe another country instead. - ATol


In the article Carrots, sticks and the isolation of Iran [May 27, Kaveh L] Afrasiabi focuses on the economic issue between Germany and Iran. He also states in a veiled manner the use (or misuse) of America's sole superpower status to influence other nations. Let's gets some facts straight. Yes, the US is currently the sole superpower in the world and as the old saying goes, "Use it or lose it." The fact that the US is "using" its power to its advantage is a fact that any nation that has the power [of] the US will most likely do the same. In regards to the rising nuclear status of Iran posing a genuine danger not only to the region but to the world at large, [this] can be backed up by the fact that Iran has used weapons of mass destruction before, when it used chemical warfare in its war with Iraq. This is a nation that has proved that it will use weapons of mass destruction, not [just] on the "infidel" nations such as Israel or any other non-Muslim nation that opposes it but also on other Muslim nations such as Iraq. The urgency to stop Iran from becoming a full-fledged nuclear power cuts across bilateral economic relationships with Iran. The palpable danger of a nuclear-armed non-Arab Iran is sufficient for its Arab Muslim nations to take notice and ultimately "request" the involvement of the Security Council, even if some of the members may lose economically when the sanctions are applied on Iran.
Chrysantha Wijeyasingha
New Orleans, Louisiana (May 31, '06)


"Shylock" is the name of a Jewish moneylender in [William] Shakespeare's The Merchant of Venice. He [lends] Antonio money, but requires that Antonio give him a pound of flesh if the money is not paid back on time. In the modern world "Shylock" is a slur that plays on the stereotype of the cheap and ruthless Jew. I enjoy Asia Times [Online] because I feel you often have some the world's most intelligent commentary on Asia. Andre Gunder Frank's use of the term "Shylock" bespeaks an ignorance that is unbecoming [Why the emperor has no clothes, Jan 6, '05].
Michael Armstrong
Beijing, China (May 31, '06)

It is true that some anti-Semites dwell on the side-issue that Shakespeare's Shylock was Jewish and use the name as a slur, but for most modern English speakers the word is merely slang for "unscrupulous loan shark". That is the context in which the late Andre Gunder Frank - who, incidentally, as a youngster fled Nazi Germany with his Jewish father - used it. For more on Frank, see the obituary we ran on April 27, 2005. - ATol


US citizens (in general) have very short political memories. This US characteristic is the reasoning behind the wanton and careless imprisonment of so many of our perceived "terrorists", 99% of [whom] are innocent. The US government thinks that people will "get over it" with the passage of time. Add to this the inhumane treatment and the long-term incarceration without trial, and you have the recipe for long-term latent terrorism. In the years to come, for reasons which will be inexplicable at the time, old men will commit terrorist acts against their former captors because they have not forgotten or forgiven. Neither will their sons, daughters and grandchildren. Any reasonable and thinking person should be able to understand this - which excludes the leaders of the current US administration.
Ken Moreau
New Orleans, Louisiana (May 31, '06)


Re The Chinese are coming ... to Russia [May 27]: The way things stand right now, there is a far higher chance of the American southwest, Texas and California reverting back to Mexico than of Russia losing [its] Far East to Chinese shuttle traders. Bertil Lintner prefaced his opinion (and that's all it is) by pointing out that tabloids are overstating the case of Chinese "colonization", then proceeded to overstate it in his own piece. Unfortunately, most of [the article] turned out to be a simple mix of rumors, allegations and wishful thinking, somewhat tempered by the author's deliberate pace. If it wasn't [published in] ATol, I'd suspect some ideological agenda behind it. The facts on the ground are less alarming. Sure, Chinese dominate makeshift markets that have sprouted all over [across] the border, but it doesn't amount to wholesale domination of all trade and commerce. As a matter of fact, Russo-Chinese interaction in the Far East is still rather far away from saturation point, and will only increase to the benefit of both countries. Building walls is a losing proposition, as Chinese know all too well, and Americans will figure out on their own soon enough. As Mr Lintner observed, [the] Chinese aren't terribly visible [in the Russian Far East]. But contrary to his assertions, it's not so because hordes of them are cowering in some dormitories afraid of Russian hooligans. It's because they aren't there, at least not in numbers sufficient to tip the demographic balance. And they aren't there because most of potential migrants in China's northeast dream more about Dalian and Shanghai than about Vladivostok and Khabarovsk. There are no Chinatowns in Russian cities. Plenty of those "Chinese" [who] are on the streets are actually Koreans. The rest are mostly commuters with their base in China. If there were no commercial opportunities on the Russian side of the border, they'd never go north at all. The brave souls [who] have decided to settle in Russia will be "russified" within two generations - Russia's "melting pot" record is no worse than that of US. Given the fact that the Chinese birth rate itself is already below replacement level, a massive influx of Chinese is not in order. Only a full-blown collapse of the Chinese economy could change the equation. As for the projected "reorientation toward Beijing", the very presence of China - and attendant fears of being overwhelmed by it - serves to actually cement the region's allegiance to Moscow, not to undermine it.
Oleg Beliakovich
Seattle, Washington (May 30, '06)


Re Carrots, sticks and the isolation of Iran [May 27]: It is a [rare] pleasure to read an article on Iran written by someone like Dr [Kaveh L] Afrasiabi, who knows the economics and politics of the region about which he writes. Would that articles like his were the rule, and not the exception.
M Henri Day
Stockholm, Sweden (May 30, '06)


I can't fully agree with Farid Bakht (Textile workers' rage rocks Bangladesh, May 26). I have been watching the news very closely and talking to people on both sides of the story and find there is something much deeper than what is on the surface. Hasan Mir [letter, May 26] states very rightly that some of the model factories became the targets, and what surprised me most [was that] some of the factories located in Banani-kakoli, where the conditions are quite pitiful, have survived. Yes there are exploitations of the workers by the factory owners, and many default in paying salaries on a regular basis, which are all very unfortunate. But the people who went on a rampage [against] the factories didn't seem to be the garment workers. I hardly saw any women in the mob whereas a majority of the workers are women, and don't tell me they are not capable of breaking the factories if they want to. This raises a question of who [did this] and why this happened. This needs an independent investigation.
Akku Chowdhury
Dhaka, Bangladesh (May 30, '06)


Gareth Porter [reports] that explicit overtures were made to the US by authorized representatives of the Iranian government in a document from circa 2003 [Iran offered 'to make peace with Israel', May 26]. This communication allegedly contains multiple concessions to the US, Israel and the EU, which I can only characterize as stunning in their scope. These include recognition of the State of Israel and other such, which appear to contravene fundamental precepts of the present and previous regimes since the demise of the shah's government. Interestingly and perplexingly, this earth-shaking overture has not been reported, at least by my review of the literature, in sources other than Mr Porter's article(s). I can only speculate on the exclusivity of this journalistic coup and further wonder through what sort of ideological prism the US government (to whom this epistle was allegedly directed) viewed the offer: based on Mr Porter's representations, it appears to essentially concede every point of contention to the "West", asking (humbly) only for what the late comedian Rodney Dangerfield called "a little respect". A recent article (Karl Vick and Dafna Linzer, Washington Post Foreign Service, May 24) also made clear that multiple solicitations have been made by Iran to the US via intermediaries, but again no mention of the dramatic 2003 letter with its sweeping concessions was made. Vick and Linzer also quote Paul Pillar: "There is no question in my mind that there has been for some time a desire on the part of the senior Iranian leadership to engage in a dialogue with the United States," said Paul Pillar, who was the senior Middle East intelligence analyst with the CIA [US Central Intelligence Agency] until last fall. Thus there does seem to be a broad consensus on the matter of an Iranian approach, but it should best be recalled that there are many factions in the Iranian government, some of which present the appearance of working at cross-purposes. Mr Porter reports, "On March 10, President George W Bush said, 'The Iranian president has stated his desire to destroy our ally, Israel. So when you start listening to what he has said to their desire to develop a nuclear weapon, then you begin to see an issue of grave national-security concern.'" However, President Mahmud Ahmadinejad was not in office at the time of the 2003 initiative and this comment is not relevant, therefore, to the main point of Mr Porter's article. It is, however, quite relevant to the current regime, which, inconveniently, now has the populist and publicly irredentist character of Mr Ahmadinejad to deal with. Furthermore, Mr Ahmadinejad's credibility with radical Islamist groups, both domestic and foreign, would be seriously compromised by an accommodation with "The Great Satan". Pragmatism may win out, as is often the case with post-revolutionary regimes now desiring international stability, but it's not entirely clear that the current regime espouses the offers purportedly made in 2003. In fact, plenty of representations made by his government suggest the contrary. It's also not clear how radical elements would be purged or contained in an effort to accomplish the "hoped for" reconciliation by Iranian peacemakers. There are precedents for such abrupt turns in government policy (eg, the Stalin-Hitler pact), but Iran's control of its proxies is less firm than might be expected. In summary, while it is clear that some elements within the Iranian theocracy have expressed an interest, even perhaps a fervid one, in opening negotiations with the USA, and it is equally clear that the US government, for one reason or another, has (at least to my knowledge) failed to pursue these overtures, the letter [Porter] reports on requires publication so the full text can be analyzed. To offer these tantalizing concessions while representing that they were rejected out of hand by the [Bush] administration suggests that either the present US government is dangerously blinkered (evidently and maybe accurately [implied] by Gareth Porter) or, perhaps, there are other unknown variables that might put the dismissal into clearer perspective.
Keith Comess (May 30, '06)

A point that is often overlooked when considering the complexities of Iranian politics and international relations is the influence of the country's Supreme Leader, Grand Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. See the new Gareth Porter article Khamenei in control and ready to 'haggle'.  - ATol


Regarding the article The battle spreads in Afghanistan [May 26], no matter how this battle concludes Pakistan will be the biggest loser. Before [September 11, 2001] Pakistan fully backed the Taliban regime in Afghanistan but after September 11 and a stern talk from Washington, DC, to [President General Pervez] Musharraf, Pakistan did a 180-degree turn regarding its position with the Taliban and joined ranks with the US coalition. The end result was the fall of the Taliban regime and an elected government in Afghanistan. This suited India and the US fine but not Pakistan. As the article points out, terror groups are springing [up] across Afghanistan to take on the ANA (Afghan National Army) and the US-led coalition. In addition to these various Afghan resistance fighters [there are] "unknown groups" who turn out to be led by "former Pakistani army general and director general of the Inter-Service Intelligence Hamid Gul". Because of Mr Musharraf's half-hearted attempts to catch key al-Qaeda and Taliban leaders within Pakistan's borders and the game of political poker that Mr Musharraf played with the US, Pakistan has already lost quite a lot. It has lost the steadfast trust of the US and it has lost full control of its western province of Balochistan to the al-Qaeda/Taliban nexus. If all goes well for the newly empowered Taliban forces and they are able to defeat the ANA and if the US coalition is forced to pull out, Afghanistan will fall back to Taliban rule, except this time the hand of al-Qaeda will help them be in power. This situation will place Pakistan in the most awkward situation. Instead of pre-September 11 Pakistani influence over the Taliban government, the newly emerged Taliban will not forget Pakistan's betrayal, [and] Pakistan may have to face the specter of a "Talibanization" of its own country. It was obvious that the leadership of Pakistan loathed the thought of a democratic Afghanistan that is reaching [out] to India and is supported by the US. Now Pakistan may face a not-too-friendly al-Qaeda-backed Taliban regime that just might turn the tables on Mr Musharraf and his government. The conundrum that Pakistan may face is worse than just being caught between the devil and the deep blue sea.
Chrysantha Wijeyasingha
New Orleans, Louisiana (May 30, '06)


Re [Philippines' mining down in the dumps] by David Llorito, dated May 26: Has anyone verified all the figures being used by both sides, as to their sources? They sound so precise and authoritative, but I doubt them. All I know is that there were many people hurt by the spills; unfortunately, the people who are siding/fronting for the company(s) are not the people hurt by the spills. Who are these people: those with vested interests and those who have accepted bribes. (This is not a challenge to the writer, who has limited time and resources.)
Fluffysummit (May 30, '06)


Well, I think it's safe to say that Herr Spengler has finally jumped the tracks. His [May 23] review of arch-reactionary Melanie Phillips' book Londonistan [This time the crocodile won't wait] serves as a platform for all of Spengler's anti-Muslim rhetoric and, well, racism. In his efforts to be even-handed (ha) the good Spengled-one insists England has had a glorious past - well, if you mean [William] Shakespeare and [John] Milton and [Isaac] Newton, and maybe the Spice Girls and Wayne Rooney, then okay. But failing to mention colonialism is typical of this apologist for imperialism. A quick Google of Kenya/British rule will allow Spengler to get up to speed on the real glories of [Britain]'s history. And to conflate radical Islamic fanatics with all Muslims is simply mendacious. Ask [George] Galloway and his Respect Party if all Muslims feel revulsion for British leftists. This kind of half-baked bulls**t is typical Spengler. A faux intellect, he should probably be allowed a nice clean cell in a Somerset asylum, where he won't be allowed to contaminate the pages of an otherwise quite fine online paper.
John Steppling
Lodz, Poland (May 30, '06)


If D Bhardwaj [letter, May 26] pays attention to the news, he should hear that China has started the local-election process. A progressive home-grown democratic system is and will be a lot better than a democratic system forced upon the entire population. A forced democracy worked in some countries where basic human needs were not problems, like in Japan, Germany, Korea, etc. In many other cases, forced democracy is not working, like in India and many African and Latin America countries. In India in particular, the democracy only works for the rich and powerful. Most [of the] Indian population does not have enough information to make a good judgment about whom they should vote for. Imagine those starved Indians living in sheds hot like hell watching a political debate between two candidates on a large-screen plasma TV. Sound like English humor? While the English-educated Indian elites brag about their elections, they never care about their own poor brothers and sisters. The English trained Indians to behave that way so they could colonize India with ease. I was stunned that Indian elites are proud of that. Do common Indians worry about their lives more or political parties more? No matter where they live, in Seattle, China or India, most normal human beings need clean water, food, and shelter to survive. They cannot live on empty votes. I know I cannot. Can you, D Bhardwaj?
Frank of Seattle
Washington, USA (May 30, '06)


Re Iran offered 'to make peace with Israel' [May 26]: And the Iranians did not on their own establish this "peace" on their own? Hmmm.
Herb Walker (May 26, '06)


Is GUAM [alliance of Georgia, Ukraine, Azerbaijan and Moldova] reborn? It would seem so, at least reading a couple of Russian newspapers and Pepe Escobar's article [The Gazprom nation, May 26]. Will the new GUAM, minus a key Central Asian state [Uzbekistan], that is, have the same bleak political and economic performance as the previous GUUAM? Ukraine is experiencing economic stagnation and possibly heading towards a political deadlock under the [Viktor] Yushchenko regime. Mr Escobar considers Ukraine an "alternative integration center" - and who is integrating with Ukraine? What state will rush to provide Ukraine with energy security when the country can hardly pay half of the market price for gas? Turkmenistan has many times sought to receive its pay from Ukraine. Nevertheless, all sorts of projects have been discussed: Iran-Turkey-Ukraine gas pipeline, LNG [liquefied natural gas] shipments of Turkmen and Azerbaijani gas via Georgia to Ukraine - assuming of course, once again, that expensive LNG plants will be geared towards Ukraine rather than towards the lucrative European, Asian, and North American markets and that the US will let Turkey and Ukraine help Iran sell its gas. Following the dichotomy set up in the Western press, Pepe Escobar believes that Russia uses economic and energy leverage to punish "pro-EU" states in the CIS [Commonwealth of Independent States]. This is a skewed take on the issue: what state today is willing to subsidize - for that is what Russia has been doing for the last 14 years via cheap energy and its open markets - other countries that actively oppose its interests or take their cues from the leading NATO members - usually idealized as "EU"? I guess not only the GUAM states, but even Mr Escobar, have taken for granted what in today's context has been a large-scale humanitarian assistance project: prices for Russian gas have been at one-quarter to one-third of the European market prices for years. Along with virtually free access to Russian domestic markets, and yearly [US]$250 [million] to $1 billion - depending on the country - of remittances from nationals working in Russia, mostly illegally, this boils down to $10 billion of aid - and this aid doesn't go towards expense accounts and hotels for the swarms of graduates and experts seeking to feed hungry minds with political ideas. Russia's policy actually helps large sectors of the population in these regions. That was the norm. As a US consumer, an apartment resident, and a car owner, I have become used to a different norm: paying over $3 per gallon [79 cents a liter] of gasoline and having a large chunk of my paycheck taken out by expensive gas and electricity prices. So please pardon Russia when it decides to no longer do for other states what American companies will not do even for American citizens: subsidize their energy consumption. NATO/EU members pretend as if the Russia-Ukraine gas conflict, and the subsequent energy shortfall in countries receiving gas via Ukraine, was not the direct consequence of their strong interference in Ukraine's elections in late 2004. By financially and politically aiding Yushchenko, they did away with a regime that had been, and was planned to be, relatively cooperative with Russia and, hence, was to continue to receive cheap gas. Perhaps the perception, or assumption, was that "Russia will take it" and will subsidize while NATO decides policy? This pretense is also seen in Poland, which has protested the Russian-German gas project and yet for years stalled and blocked the proposed Yamal-Europe II, a pipeline that could send up to 60 billion cubic meters from Russia via Belarus-Poland to Slovakia and the rest of Europe; how can one stubbornly oppose increased Russian gas transportation and yet demand it? ... Finally, Mr Escobar mention's "the new Saudi Arabia", which makes one wonder, when did Saudi Arabia get an advanced space program and strategic weapons, aircraft and nuclear industry, a developed scientific base and community, and a geopolitical reach well beyond its borders? As a minor point, Russia's forex reserves are not "$170 billion", but as of mid-May 2006, $238 billion ...
Leon Rozmarin
Hopedale, Massachusetts (May 26, '06)


The picture Farid Bakht portrayed in his article [Textile workers' rage rocks Bangladesh, May 26] is anything but right ... It sounds like he is very much willing to bet his credibility to save the name of [the] "neighboring country". Bangladesh is one of the largest exporters of garments to Europe and Asia. The industry flourished in the last decade or so. It employs millions of workers, mostly women. I like any Bangladeshi have seen reports and proofs of how some garment-manufacturer owners mistreat and exploit their workers. But ... the abuse is not widespread. No industry can flourish abusing its workers. What happened in Bangladesh in the last couple of days is anything but [accidental] or "labor unrest" as some would like you to believe. Every single factory that was destroyed was a model factory where workers were paid regularly and much more than average factory workers in the rest of the country. On top of that, most of the workers from those factories have distanced themselves from the whole affair. Intelligence officials had warned government before this week's incident that a vested quarter is trying to incite violence and create havoc in Bangladesh's main foreign-currency earner. The "neighboring country" which Mr Bakht tried to save so much has been using propaganda mostly to get orders away from Bangladesh to India. This is a well-known fact ...
Hasan Mir (May 26, '06)


Another timely article by Kaushik Kapisthalam: India, US fight to save nuclear deal [May 25]. The fight is legitimate. There are many positive aspects to this deal apart from bringing hundreds of billions of dollars to US businesses and other members of the NSG [Nuclear Suppliers Group]. The most important reason for me is that it would be a great benefit to the environment of our planet. Despite all the fears expressed about dangers of nuclear reactors, the Chernobyl or Long Island incidents had minuscule adverse affects [compared with] the environmental damage and global warming caused by burning hydrocarbons. Use of nuclear energy for power production would not only lessen further environmental damage but also help conserve and thus reduce the price of this precious commodity. The deal is a win-win not only for India and the US but for the whole planet. Kaushik's mention of comparison with China is also legitimate, which again shows how biased and lopsided the NPT [Non-Proliferation Treaty] is, which has been and can be modified. [Siddharth] Shrivastava's India shelves ambitious missile program [May 25] points to realism accepted by Indian leaders. Missiles and nuclear weapons are not as pressing an issue as the economic upliftment of the masses. I cannot, however, resist sharing my predicament with my Sinic friend Frank [letter, May 24]. He wonders in response to Sudha Ramachandra's article India's rite of summer: Death from the heat [May 24] why poor, hungry and scantily clad Indians care to vote. I would have no problem if Frank wrote that from some Chinese hinterland but, alas, he sits and writes all this from Washington state. I wonder why a billion-plus wealthy, well-fed and well-dressed Chinese don't care to vote and elect their own government?
D Bhardwaj
Chicago, Illinois (May 26, '06)


I wish to comment on the article India's rite of summer: Death from the heat [May 24]. It is such an inglorious shame that at the stroke of every hour the Indians are frog-marching to economic glory and claiming astonishing growth but one has only to look at the outskirts of their big cities to find abject poverty of the majority of [India's] people living in no better conditions than the rats in the sewage. I agree fully with Frank [letter, May 24] that democracy does give a poor man a right to vote and elect, but what would he know about the wretched and incorrigibly corrupt democracy of India so proudly acclaimed as unique by its bourgeoisies, "Democracy of the rich, for the rich and by the rich" ... This reminds me about a story of a poor Indian farmer who could only afford to buy one loaf of bread every week to feed his family. On the other hand his master could afford to buy many loaves plus meat, vegetables, rice and cake. Things [got] worse; the farmer was mad at his master for sleeping with his daughter and refused to plant the wheat crop to punish his master, causing the price of bread to double, [then] treble. The poor man could not afford a loaf and his children died of hunger. The master [was] still rich, complained about the inflationary price but bought a loaf of bread every day. The farmer's wife got mad at her husband for not making any money from selling the crop, so she went to see his master and asked for a loan. He agreed but on the condition that she would have to go to bed with him. So the wife bought two loaves of bread, vegetables and rice and a cake with the money. At the dinner table, the farmer told his wife that his decision not to grow wheat was wise, after all. The wife smiled and told him to enjoy his dinner because often decisions have unintended consequences.
Saqib Khan
London, England (May 26, '06)


[Re note under Sreekanth's letter of May 25] Of course, no nation will spend blood and treasure to correct all possible injustices in the world: witness the collective yawn over Darfur. There are two separate points I'm making: Saddam Hussein was an evil dictator, and no one need mourn his passing. Separately, the reason for rearranging the pieces in the Middle East is not just that these are individual nasty regimes, but the fount of a dangerous ideology that threatens nations such as Australia, Indonesia, Thailand, China, India, Russia, various European nations and the US. The hope is to control this problem by having representative governments in the region, especially which do not subsidize and export terrorism. The fact that you use the term "rogue superpower" indicates your preconceived notions, just as this letter indicates mine, I guess. Would it become less of a rogue action if the five permanent Security Council members, two nominally US allies, one a dictatorship, and one fast becoming that way, were to act in concert, and wouldn't you then just call it "rogue superpowers" in the plural? Ultimately, my contention is that in spite of the obvious motives of self-interest, the US actions in the Middle East will profit everyone.
Jonnavithula "Jon" Sreekanth
Acton, Massachusetts (May 26, '06)

Okay, last word to you. We'd just add that we appreciate reasoned, rant-free arguments such as yours attempting to explain a point of view evidently not favored by most of our writers (or, most likely, our readers) on America's imperial ambitions and its perceptions of moral imperative. Your comments are a refreshing change from the "you guys at ATol are a bunch of commies" crowd - as well as their counterparts in the "Bush is an asshole" camp. - ATol


Interviewee Andrew Bacevich (The delusions of global hegemony, Part 1 , May 25) states that the most influential people in the US administration "really believed" in "bizarre delusions". Delusion unfortunately seems to have had too important a role throughout US history. It is only because of the gigantic scope and scale of tools and methods, at the disposal of rulers so out of touch with direct dealing with the basic day-to-day existence of most of humanity that the delusion has become bizarre. Weaponry, finance, means of communication and transportation have become scaled so large as to be nearly beyond democratic reach. Yet the rulers' sincerity of belief, however delusional, that the best interests of the ruled are being pursued should attenuate the vehemence of criticism of such a regime, in which we've almost all had at least an acquiescent part. As most all of us partake of the destructive and dehumanized network of livelihood support that the US claims to promote and protect, deposing the current regime without overhaul of our livelihood dependencies would itself be only slightly less bizarre. It is symbolically appropriate if people from the [US] Army and marines, bearing the brunt of denigration, are best placed to speak up in opposition to a regime that has gone too far. For has the US military itself not been maybe the world's worst devastater of earth and polluter of water, even with no direct intent? Is it not bizarrely delusional to protect while underestimating harm to the protected? The earth and the water of all of our livelihoods seems unable to yield or forgive any longer, "and we're paying the consequences now". All eyes should be on the people of the US, from retired generals to any small person with a voice, as we hope they dispel our pessimism that the US can assume the non-delusional role so many of us wish for their and all of our benefit.
D Vernon
Toronto, Ontario (May 25, '06)

In an early upload of this article, we incorrectly said that Part 2 of the interview would run in today's edition. We hope to have Part 2 online in time for the weekend. - ATol


[Re Iran deploys its war machine , May 24] The Iranians may be fooling themselves if they think an asymmetrical defense can save them. Even our [US military] Gilbert & Sullivan Joint Chiefs can see that a conventional attack on Iran would be disastrous and beyond the reasonable domestic political limits of our country. The only feasible means to take out Iran for the foreseeable future as a "threat" (as defined by the Defense Department and West Wing [White House] civilian draft-dodgers, and military G&S stand-ins, who have shaky knees and gelatinous spines to begin with) is by a Hiroshima-style holocaust. Such an attack, say 10 [million] or 12 million casualties, or more if necessary, would leave them [Iranians] so demoralized that it is unlikely they could scare even [George W] Bush or [Richard] Cheney for a decade or two. If properly done it might leave the southeastern oil facilities and the Strait of Hormuz available. But with The Gang That Can't Shoot Straight, who can tell? This [Bush] administration has shown itself impervious to such considerations as respect for the decent opinions of mankind. Bush's kill rate has already reached and, depending on what reasonably authoritative estimate you accept, may have exceeded Saddam [Hussein]'s (over 20-plus years). He has with perfect equanimity put Saddam's prisons to good use, but with our slightly less egregious forms of torture. It is but a short step to Hiroshima squared. And if they were afraid of Saddam, they must be really terrified of Iran. It is to the benefit of both the Bushies and Israel ... to isolate us so that the former can continue to terrify a demoralized population, made over into their own image, to their advantage; and the latter can finally maneuver us into a position where it is our only ally ... As a cultural libertarian I would not presume to counsel the Iranians as to their best course (a largely forgotten, but treasured by some, expression in the United States is "Better death than dishonor"), but they should be aware that the America they are dealing with today has little in common with the America so long admired by so many.
Anthony J Van Patten
Glendale, California (May 25, '06)


In Yellow journalism and chicken hawks (May 24), Jim Lobe identifies me as a member of Benador Associates; I am not. Had Mr Lobe fact-checked his article with reference to the Benador Associates website, he could have ascertained this. This error requires a correction.
Michael Rubin (May 25, '06)

We stand corrected and Michael Rubin's name has been removed. - ATol


I just want to say that our "Frank of Seattle" has learned a lot from ATol. [For the] first time in three years or so I saw that he has made serious comments [letter, May 24] over Sudha Ramachandran's article of May 24 [India's rite of summer: Death from the heat ], though it really surprised to me not to see to see his usual rhetoric - "white master", "licking master's shoes".
Shekhar Mehta
Chicago, Illinois (May 25, '06)


Re Bob Hoye's The 'peak oil' deja vu [May 23]: This article is an argument by analogy and totally ignores the empirical evidence that we are approaching peak oil - a concept Hoye does not even define. Nor does he mention - let alone refute - M King Hubbert's work on the linearization model that accurately predicted peak oil in the US lower 48 states, nor does Hoye deal with the empirical facts of Burgan [oilfield] in Kuwait and Cantarell in Mexico going into decline, nor the Saudis' futile efforts to raise production. The list of declining [oil] fields grows as nothing approaching them in size is discovered. This is one of the poorest articles you've ever published. Typically you have excellent stories, but this is sheer ignorance.
Dan Bednarz (May 25, '06)


ATol editor: Your point is well taken that Saddam Hussein's tyranny and atrocities were of the secular kind [note under Sreekanth's letter of May 24]. That being said, the Iraqi people and the rest of the world are far better off without him. In terms of reasons, though I agree with President [George W] Bush's actions, it is indeed a matter for regret that he did not initially describe his strategic reasoning to the American public, and instead relied on WMD [weapons of mass destruction] innuendo. The clearest big-picture reasoning on the subject was his little-noticed address in October 2005.
Jonnavithula "Jon" Sreekanth
Acton, Massachusetts (May 25, '06)

The world is full of horrible dictators and other political leaders whom we all, and especially the people they directly tyrannize or keep in misery through their negligence, incompetence or greed, would be better off without. That is not and never has been the point as far as many non-Americans are concerned. The point is, should the US be the only nation permitted to overthrow any state it happens not to approve of? Is not such a rogue superpower far more disruptive to global order than a tinpot dictator like Saddam Hussein? - ATol


Thank you for Sudha Ramachandran's [May 24] article India's rite of summer: Death from the heat. We in the West, especially the NRIs (non-resident Indians), need to be constantly reminded that much of what we hear about India's economic progress, et al, is propaganda meant to feed the already engorged Indian ego, both at home and abroad. While India has certainly taken gigantic economic strides, these don't amount a "fart in the wind" (to use a phrase borrowed from the satanic prison warden, Norton, in The Shawshank Redemption) when our most vulnerable (who number in the hundreds of millions) are not just ignored, but abused and treated as acceptable "collateral damage" in the insatiable march towards corporate profits that line the pockets of a privileged few. Unfortunately, given India's enormous populace coupled with the callousness of its elected officials and the minuscule value its society places on the lives of the downtrodden, things are likely to remain the same (if not worsen).
Fareed Zahid
USA (May 24, '06)


I am glad that Sudha Ramachandran understands that "it is not the heat wave per se that is killing people, but an unresponsive government machinery" [India's rite of summer: Death from the heat, May 24]. However, Sudha should dig a little deeper into the issue. Why does a democratic government fail to respond to its people year after year? Were there any congressional hearings? Probably not. There would be a lot of empty hearings. At least nobody is found responsible for ignoring the cry of help from India's own citizens. India's half-baked democratic system is apparently not working. Democracy is not just about voting. It is about the voices of citizens. Those poor Indian citizens need the India government to provide them with clean drinking water, food, shelter and decent clothes, not just voting rights. When the Indian government fails to listen to its citizens' basic survival needs, empty votes do not mean much. When millions of Indians can barely be alive, whom do they care to vote for?
Frank of Seattle
Washington, USA (May 24, '06)


Thanks for exposing people like Amir Taheri [Yellow journalism and chicken hawks, May 24]. It helps ordinary people like me to understand more care is needed in reading the news. In Canada, the National Post is often regarded by many to distort international news for its own purposes.
Dave Chiu (May 24, '06)


The article Iran deploys its war machine [May 24] concludes by stating: "It is dealing with a country that is significantly more powerful than Iraq, Afghanistan, Sudan, Vietnam and every other country bar Germany that it has fought." The paragraph forgot the Japanese Empire that the US also defeated. In the '30s both Germany and Japan built their military where it was second to none. Both nations had advanced air forces and naval forces that included aircraft carriers, something that Iran at this moment does not have even one, yet the US and its allies were able to defeat both powers. If a war were to break now, Iran would be facing formidable and highly advanced armies of the US and its coalition and Israel that do have aircraft carriers, nuclear submarines, and advanced military satellite systems. This group of nations really doesn't need to deploy vast numbers of troops on Iranian soil. Quite a lot of damage could be done by nuclear submarines equipped with nuclear weapons from these nations. They can easily secure the Strait of Hormuz and cut Iran's military oil supply without deploying soldiers to do the job. In addition, all of Iran's foreign assets will be frozen, an act that Iran cannot do to its enemies. It can freeze its oil exports to these nations but that would amount to cutting one's nose to spite one's face. One of Iran's biggest flaws is its confidence in its military and the assurance that it will win no matter what the odds are.
Chrysantha Wijeyasingha
New Orleans, Louisiana (May 24, '06)


Regarding Sreeram Chaulia's Why all is quiet on the American home front [May 24], it's hard to know where to start commenting on it, because he seems to have started with the assumption that deposing Saddam Hussein and jump-starting democracy in Iraq was wrong and evil, and wonders why right-thinking people don't protest. Maybe I should pick on the alleged coupling between minorities and opposition to war, and in particular that immigrants should be "stirred" by the effort to restrict illegal immigration, and therefore also oppose the war in Iraq. [I] don't quite see the connection there. In fact, it is patronizing to say that minorities and immigrants should be opposed to the Iraq war (or the Vietnam War, for that matter) because it presumes that they are not able to reason at the strategic level that the one was a proxy war against communism and the other is a proxy war against Islamist extremism. It is also historically inaccurate to say that US citizens had no fear of losing life and limb from the Soviets: during the Cuban missile crisis, there was actually a very real possibility of nuclear war on American soil. Similarly now, in spite of Cindy Sheehan and other "grassroots" protests, the majority of Americans have seen first-hand after [September 11, 2001] that our way of life and our personal security [are] under very real threat, and are responding accordingly.
Jonnavithula "Jon" Sreekanth
Acton, Massachusetts (May 24, '06)

But there was little or no overt Islamist extremism in Iraq before the US-led invasion. The available evidence is that Saddam Hussein despised Osama bin Laden and had nothing to do with September 11 or any other terrorist act directed at Americans. Surely it's time for Americans to put that red herring to rest and do some serious analysis of the real reasons for taking over Iraq. - ATol


In his ignorance and provincialism, Spengler cannot see any conflict in terms others than 1930s Germany [This time the crocodile won't wait, May 23].
Lester Ness
Changchun, China (May 24, '06)


I should be obliged if you would publish my comments on the article The Israel lobby: How powerful is it really? [May 23]. The misfortune that plagues the Muslims has the West as its origin and Israel, who